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Re: pre-natal miracles?

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Thomas Izbicki <[log in to unmask]>

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Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture <[log in to unmask]>

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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

John the Baptist leaping in his mother's womb at the Visitation comes to mind.

Tom Izbicki

Thomas Izbicki
Collection Development Coordinator
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>>> [log in to unmask] 10/5/2004 2:45:33 AM >>>
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

Would anyone know of an example of a saint who was able to perform miracles
before he/she was born? I faintly remember having read (well, somwhere) that
there are legends of saints who were able to do that but I can't think of
the reference now.

Thanks in advance

Sandra Lowerre
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Terrill Heaps
  Sent: 05 October 2004 06:56
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Subject: Re: [M-R] "Prosimetric"


  medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
  Marjorie Greene wrote:

    May I know what "prosimetricity" or "prosimetricness" is?
    MG
  Prosimetric form is not common in Old English, as it is in Old Norse. Here
is a representative sample from the Lay of Helgi Hjorvarthsson, "Helgakviða
Hjörvarþssonar". (I have used "ö" to indicate the "hooked-o."
  Many think that in oral performance, the prose portions were performed by
declamation, whereas the verse portions were sung.

  Cheers,

  Terrill

  ..............................(Helgakviða Hjörvarþssonar)

       Frá Hjörvarði ok Sigrlinn

       Hjörvarðr hét konungr. Hann átti fjórar konur. Ein hét
       Álfhildr; son þeira hét Heðinn. Önnur hét Særeiðr; þeira son
       hét Humlungr. In þriðja hét Sinrjóð; þeira son hét
       Hymlingr.

       Hjörvarðr konungr hafði þess heit strengt, at eiga þá konu,
       er hann vissi vænsta. Hann spurði, at Sváfnir konungr átti
       dóttur allra fegrsta; sú hét Sigrlinn. Iðmundr hét jarl hans;
       Atli var hans son, er fór at biðja Sigrlinnar til handa
       konungi. Hann dvalðist vetrlangt með Sváfni konungi.
       Fránmarr hét þar jarl, fóstri Sigrlinnar; dóttir hans hét Álof.
       Jarlinn réð, at meyjar var synjat, ok fór Atli heim.
       Atli jarls son stóð einn dag við lund nökkurn, en fugl sat í
       limunum uppi yfir hánum ok hafði heyrt til, at hans menn
       kölluðu vænstar konur þær, er Hjörvarðr konungr átti.
       Fuglinn kvakaði, en Atli hlýddi, hvat hann sagði.
       Hann kvað:

                      1.
                      "Sáttu Sigrlinn
                      Sváfnis dóttur,
                      mey ina fegrstu
                      í munarheimi?
                      Þó hagligar
                      Hjörvarðs konur
                      gumnum þykkja
                      at Glasislundi."

  Atli kvað:

                      2.
                      "Mundu við Atla
                      Iðmundar son
                      fugl fróðhugaðr,
                      fleira mæla?"

       Fuglinn kvað:

                      3.
                      "Mun ek, ef mik buðlungr
                      blóta vildi
                      ok kýs ek þats vilk
                      ór konungs garði."

       Atli kvað:

                      4.
                      "Kjós-at-tu Hjörvarð
                      né hans sonu,
                      né inar fögru
                      fylkis brúðir,
                      eigi brúðir þær,
                      er buðlungr á;
                      kaupum vel samam,
                      þat er vina kynni."

       Fuglinn kvað:

                      5.
                      "Hof mun ek kjósa,
                      hörga marga,
                      gullhyrnðar kýr
                      frá grams búi,
                      ef hánum Sigrlinn
                      sefr á armi
                      ok ónauðig
                      jöfri fylgir."

       Þetta var, áðr Atli f*ri, en er hann kom heim ok konungr
       spurði hann tíðenda, hann kvað:

                      6.
                      "Höfum erfiði
                      ok ekki örindi,
                      mara þraut óra
                      á meginfjalli,
                      urðum síðan
                      Sæmorn vaða,
                      þá var oss synjat
                      Sváfnis dóttur,
                      hringum g*ddrar,
                      er hafa vildum."

       Konungr bað, at þeir skyldu fara annat sinn; fór hann sjálfr.
       En er þeir kómu upp á fjall, ok sá á Sváfaland lanzbruna ok
       jóreyki stóra. Reið konungr af fjallinu fram í landit ok tók
       náttból við á eina. Atli helt vörð ok fór yfir ána. Hann fann
       eitt hús. Fugl mikill sat á húsinu ok gætti, ok var sofnaðr.
       Atli skaut spjóti fuglinn bana, en í húsinu fann hann
       Sigrlinn konungs dóttur ok Álofu jarls dóttur ok hafði þær
       báðar braut með sér. Fránmarr jarl hafði hamazt í arnar líki
       ok varit þær fyrir hernum með fjölkyngi. Hróðmarr hét
       konungr, biðill Sigrlinnar. Hann drap Sváfakonung ok hafði
       rænt ok brent landit. Hjörvarðr konungr fekk Sigrlinnar, en
       Atli Álofar.

       Hjörvarðr ok Sigrlinn áttu son mikinn ok vænan. Hann var
       þögull; ekki nafn festist við hann. Hann sat á haugi; hann sá
       ríða valkyrjur níu ok var ein göfugligust. Hon kvað:

                      7.
                      "Síð muntu Helgi
                      hringum ráða,
                      ríkr rógapaldr,
                      né Röðulsvöllum,
                      - örn gól árla, -
                      ef þú æ þegir,
                      þótt þú harðan hug
                      hilmir, gjaldir."

       Hjörvarðr kvað:

                      8.
                      "Hvat lætr þú fylgja
                      Helga nafni,
                      brúðr bjartlituð,
                      alls þú bjóða ræðr?
                      Hygg þú fyr öllum
                      atkvæðum vel,
                      þigg ek eigi þat,
                      nema ek þik hafa."

       Valkyrja kvað:

                      9.
                      "Sverð veit ek liggja
                      í Sigarsholmi
                      fjórum færi
                      en fimm tögu,
                      eitt er þeira
                      öllum betra
                      vígnesta böl
                      ok varit gulli.

                      10.
                      Hringr er í hjalti,
                      hugr er í miðju,
                      ógn er í oddi
                      þeim er eiga getr,
                      liggr með eggju
                      ormr dreyrfáaðr,
                      en á valböstu
                      verpr naðr hala."

       Eylimi hét konungr. Dóttir hans var Sváfa. Hon var
       valkyrja ok reið loft ok lög. Hon gaf Helga nafn þetta ok
       hlífði hánum oft síðan í orrostum. Helgi kvað:

                      11.
                      "Ert-at-tu, Hjörvarðr
                      heilráðr konungr,
                      folks oddviti,
                      þótt þú frægr séir;
                      léztu eld eta
                      jöfra byggðir,
                      en þeir angr við þik
                      ekki gerðu.

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