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Re: Freedom of Information Act

From:

Neil Campling <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Issues related to Sites & Monuments Records <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:27:23 +0100

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Sorry Roger, but requests for environmental information have to be dealt
with under the EIR, not the FoI.  One of the "exemptions" from the FoI
is the EIR.  That's what is meant by subsidiary.
Cheers,
Neil

>>> [log in to unmask] 08/10/2004 15:26:37 >>>
I don't think this is quite right. The Freedom of Information Act 2000
is just that - an Act of Parliament (a statute) and therefore primary -
not 'subsidiary' - legislation. Other statutes and Statutory Instruments
will not override the FOIA as a matter of course.

How the particular provisions of the FOIA relate to those of other
legislation (such as the EIR), however, is another matter.

Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Sites & Monuments Records on behalf of Neil
Campling
Sent: Thu 07/10/2004 14:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Cc:
Subject: Re: Freedom of Information Act



        Dear All,

        The FoI Act is subsidiary legislation: other legislation or
Statutory
        Instruments, such as the DPA, over-ride the FOI.  Therefore, one
of the
        exemptions of data from the procedures of the FoI Act is the
EIR.
        Please note the 1992 EIR will be replaced by the EIR 2004.  As
noted
        yesterday, the Statutory Instrument is currently in draft form
and will
        be modified as and how we respond to the Code of Practice.  But
that
        does not mean that  we won't have to record rrequests for
information,
        just that we have to do it under the new EIR, not the FoI Act.

        cheers,
        Neil


        >>> [log in to unmask] 07/10/2004 09:43:30 >>>
        Many thanks for all the comments. Very useful. As I feared
nothing is
        ever
        straight forward...

        Pete - Not sure. I think FoIA probably does override the 1998
        Environmental
        Information (Amendment) Regulations, but would need to check

        My planning colleagues recently asked for guidance on certain
issues,
        Including pre-planning application enquiries, and were told by
the FOI
        office:

        The weighting of the FOIA is always in favour of disclosure and

        authorities
        should think very carefully before applying any exemption. The
access
        code
        in section 45 of the Act does advise:

        and

         although there may well be cases in which it is right for
authorities
        to
        declare information exempt under section 41, to avoid any
actionable
        breach
        of confidence, it is not a judgement that should be taken
lightly.

        Our HER is included in our local authority Publication Scheme
and it
        is
        interesting to note Emma that you say that inclusion in the
scheme
        means
        that HER information is not subject to FOI enquiries as the
resource
        is
        reasonably accessible. I have asked for clarification on the
issue of
        whether all enquiries for HER information from 1st Jan have to
be
        recorded
        on our corporate FOI enquiry database or whether we continue to
record
        them
        as now. How do we know whether an enquiry comes under the FOI
Act and
        does
        it really matter, as the HER is accessible anyway?

        Perhaps we could have an update on this issue at the next HER
Forum
        meeting?

        Thanks



        Jill

        Jill Collens
        Project Leader - Historic Environment
        +Environmental Planning
        Cheshire County Council
        Backford Hall
        Backford
        Chester CH1 6PZ

        (01244 603204
        :[log in to unmask]

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Iles, Peter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent: 06 October 2004 14:46
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: Re: Freedom of Information Act


        Jill - does this new Act override the 1992 Environmental
Information
        Regulations?  under those regs I belive the following may be
true:

        In Section 4 information MAY be not be disclosed if (a) it
relates to
        the
        subject of any legal or other proceedings, actual or prospective
(inc.
        Local
        Planning Enquiries); (b) it relates to confidential, internal
        communications
        of the County Council; (c) it is contained in a document or
other
        record
        which is still in the course of completion.    (This latter begs
the
        question, when is an SMR complete?)

        Information MUST not be disclosed if (a) it was supplied to the
County
        Council by another party who was under no legal obligation to do
so
        and
        could not have been put under any legal obligation to supply it
and has
        not
        consented to its disclosure; (b)  its disclosure would increase
the
        likelihood of damage to the environment affecting anything to
which
        the
        information relates.

        In Section 3.3 if the request is manifestly unreasonable or is
        formulated in
        too general a manner it may also be refused.



        Peter Iles
        Specialist Advisor (Archaeology)
        Lancashire County Council Environment Directorate
        PO Box 9
        Guild House
        Cross Street
        Preston
        PR1 8RD

        T 01772 531550
        F 01772 533423
        E [log in to unmask]

        -----Original Message-----
        From: COLLENS, Jill [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent: 06 October 2004 10:16
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: Freedom of Information Act


        Dear all

        I have a query about the Freedom of Information Act which comes
into
        force
        on 1/1/05 and its implications for HERs. I know we discussed
this a
        few
        years ago at the SMR User Group, but here in Cheshire the
authority is
        very
        busy informing staff about the implications. Whilst the
provision of
        data is
        all part of the HER role, I am a little concerned about some of
the
        messages
        that are coming back from our service and corporate Records
Management
        Officers regarding charging for commercial enquiries (I'm told
you can
        only
        charge one tenth of your normal rate which makes it uneconomic
to
        charge at
        all), also if anyone requests a copy of all of the data in the
HER then
        I am
        told we have to provide it.

        I anyone else getting similar messages and how will the FOIA
affect the
        NMR?


        Thanks


        Jill

        Dr Jill Collens
        Project Leader - Historic Environment
        +Environmental Planning
        Cheshire County Council
        Backford Hall
        Backford
        Chester CH1 6PZ

        (01244 603204
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