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Well, no. A "translatio" marks the transferal of the saint's body from one
place to another (see P. Geary, _Furta Sacra_ for a wonderful study of
"stealing" saints' bodies). So for example, St. Benedict's feast day was
moved from March 21st to July 11th for the same reason as Gregory's
(original celebrated in Lent) in the 60s. July 3 is the date when Benedict's
body was "transferred" (stolen) by the monks of Fleury from Monte Cassino in
the mid 7th century. (This issue is still hotly debated between Fleury and
Monte Cassino: Monastic Studies 1978 devoted an entire issue to the debate
of where Benedict's bones actually are). So my question was, where was
Gregory's body taken that is celebrated on Sept. 3?
jw
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>Subject: Re: saints of the day 3. September
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>See: http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintg02.htm
>According to this website, 3 Sept is the date of Greg's
>ascension to the papal throne. He was born and died at Rome.
>If I understand your question and the word "translation," the
>answer is Rome.
>MG
>
>-- John Wickstrom <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>Gregory the Great joins the long line of saints deprived from
>their centuries-long enjoyment of another feast day, in this
>case, March 12th, too far along in Lent probably to satisfy
>Martimort et al. As with others, the new date is the
>traditional translation feast. Doest anyone know whence
>Gregory's translatio?
>John W.
>
>
>
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>Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:41 PM
>To: John Wickstrom
>Subject: saints of the day 3. September
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>Today (3. September) is the feast day of:
>
>Macanisius (d. 514) Macanisius (Aengus MacNisse), according
>to a late legend, was baptized by St. Patrick. He made a
>pilgrimage to the Holy Land and Rome, after which he founded a
>church and monastery.
>
>Simeon Stylites the Younger (d. 592) Simeon was a native of
>Antioch who became a pillar-sitting saint (stylite) at the
>precocious age of seven. He lived on a pillar for 68 years
>(actually several pillars; every few years it seems that he
>got down to stretch his legs and move to a taller pillar
>further away from the crowds who were drawn to him).
>
>Gregory the Great (d. 604) One of the very few popes to win
>the soubriquet "the great" (I can only think of Leo I and,
>with somewhat less justice, Nicholas I), Gregory was the last
>of the four fathers of the Latin church. He was a wealthy
>Roman patrician who served as prefect of the city before
>converting his home into a monastery and becoming a monk. He
>was soon drafted into papal service, and in 590, much against
>his will, was elected pope---consecrated on this day in 590.
>He proved to be a splendid pontiff---a great diplomat, a
>painstaking administrator, a good pastor, and even a great theologian.
>
>Remaclus (d. c. 675) Remaclus was an Aquitainian who became
>abbot of several monasteries before founding the great double
>monastery of Stablo-Malmedy in c. 684. He probably became a
>missionary bishop in about 652.
>
>A modern saint (and companions) (blessed) (d. 1632) On this day in
>1632 Anthony Ishida, a Japanese Jesuit, was burned at Nagasaki
>with five companions---3 Augustinians, a secular priest, and a
>Franciscan lay brother---after a month of torture failed to
>convince any of them to apostacize.
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