In principal I agree with those who have, however tastefully, called for
subscribers to limit the NUMBER of their posts (not, at least so far,
content, I hope) -- but I think it also right to point out that this
means that someone will have to be judging how many per day (or week or
month) are TOO many.
In doing that, in my experience, it is only a hop, skip and jump until
the moderator, in the name of ensuring that only those reasonable and
worthwhile posts get through engages in a de facto censorship, which
censorship is based on THEIR standards.
And I thought the Internet was supposed to do away with this kind of
stuff....
Timothy Lillie, PhD
Associate Professor
The University of Akron
Zook Hall 322
Akron OH 55325-4205
330-972-6746 (voice)
330-972-5209 (fax
-----Original Message-----
From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Reynolds
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:27 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: respect for research
These rather sarcastic attacks on people who object to mass multiple
postings is a little distasteful. My feeling is that the dissemination
of such information is correctly done by one e-mail (per week) listing
the different research and directing interested readers to a website
where it is fully elaborated. That form means the information is
accessible for prolonged reflection and response.
Multiple mailing, particularly use of priority mailing when those mails
are not for instant action, and sarcastic and defensive responses have
nothing to do intrinsically with disability rights - they have to do
with egoism. The last two e-mails sent are indicative of excluding by
attempts to ridicule and not inclusiveness. Whilst we all have delete
buttons, perhaps other qualities like humility from mail senders is
appropriate?
Paul
Paul Reynolds
Senior Lecturer in Sociology
Programme Leader in Sociology and Social Psychology
Department of Social and Psychological Sciences
Edge Hill College
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>>> ColRevs <[log in to unmask]> 08/22/04 8:26 PM >>>
Nancy
I am very surprised you don't know about the history of the U.K disabled
people's movement and Disabled People's Action Network(DAN)
FREEOURPEOPLE
Regards
Colin R
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Lane" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "ColRevs" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: respect for research
> I don't know anything about you, or DAN or their research.You were
citing
> some other sources this morning which were not credible. My primary
point
> was that you sent 20 posts in one morning and 3 had high priority
alerts.
> This felt like an abuse of the list serve.
>
> If Dan is doing research using quantifiable,controlled studies by
doctoral
> and post-doctoral people and publishing the results I am eager to
hear
> about it.
>
> Research is one thing, grass-roots activism is quite another.Both are
needed
> and valuable but lets not confuse the two or blur the issue being
discussed.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ColRevs" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "Nancy Lane" <[log in to unmask]>;
<[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: respect for research
>
>
> > So, disabled people, like myself and other grassroots disabled
activists
> > within DAN are not classed as being at the 'cutting-edge' or
research ?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Colin R
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nancy Lane" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: "ColRevs" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: respect for research
> >
> >
> > > I find this angry accusation insulting. You know nothing about
where I
> > stand
> > > on research or theory. In fact I have been on the cutting edge
with
some
> > of
> > > my work and in seeking out the best and newest research for
bringing
> > needed
> > > change to many areas of disability information. I remain
interested in
> > solid
> > > research, done by qualified researchers who use rigorous
standards of
> > > controls for testing.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ColRevs" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: "Nancy Lane" <[log in to unmask]>;
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Info about the purpose of this list needed
> > >
> > >
> > > > Nancy said....Some of the sites suggested in these many posts do
not
> > > contain
> > > > any responsible or scientific
> > > > research done by qualified researchers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My reply... So then, Nancy... who do you believe which research
we
> > should
> > > > trust by so called 'qualified researchers, who believe they are
> 'right'
> > > and
> > > > others are wrong?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for filling your email box up, but I have got idea how to
solve
> > > this.
> > > > If you don't want to open your mind to 'new' post-modern
research an
> you
> > > are
> > > > stuck in the anal-retentive state of the enlightenment period
and
> > > modernity
> > > > project, from research theories that has caused so much
suffering
and
> > pain
> > > > towards humanity and wars, then that your choice.
> > > >
> > > > You can always just 'press' your 'delete' button on your
key-board
or
> > > > instruct your 'voice' activated software to 'delete' it for you.
> > > >
> > > > Once again I apologise if I have caused you and your computer
harm
by
> my
> > > > emails today. This was not my intent. I just wanted to empower
others
> > and
> > > I
> > > > though I was doing some good.
> > > >
> > > > You can't seem to win in this global 'cyber' world can you?
> > > >
> > > > As the they... 'you can't please some people all of the time,
but
you
> > > can't
> > > > please others some of the times.'
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Nancy, for not pleasing you with my-own research
information
> this
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Take-Care
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Nancy Lane" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Info about the purpose of this list needed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I joined this discussion group for broad discussion on the
reasearch
> > > going
> > > > > on in disability studies. Instead I am assaulted by 20, 20!!
emails
> > from
> > > > one
> > > > > person this morning on autism. Three of them were marked high
> priority
> > > > > although I could not detect any reason for the alert. Some of
the
> > sites
> > > > > suggested in these many posts do not contain any responsible
or
> > > scientific
> > > > > reasearch done by qualified researchers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps the moderator could explain the purpose of the list if
I
> have
> > > > > misunderstood so I can decide whether I want my in box filled
with
> > > > > unnecessary or irrlevant posts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nancy Lane, Ph.D.
> > > > >
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