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What about the episode in HF where the sainted Clothilde prefers to have her grandsons slain rather than tonsured?
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> From: Richard Landes <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:15:50 -0400
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> Subject: [M-R] honor and shame in the MA: clarification
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> interesting responses, but not too much material suggested, which surprises me.
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> let me explain what i'm looking for.
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> examples of situations in which the demands of honor-shame have people
> behaving in ways that are counterintuitive for us.
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> example one: when Oswin throws himself at the feet of Aidan and aplogizes
> for having questioned the missionary's judgment in giving away to a beggar
> the war horse that Oswin had given him (Bede, HE, 3.14), Aidan's response
> is to urge him to get up quickly and speak no more about it, and then later
> to cry because he knows that Oswin is not long for this world. Why?
> because in the world of warrior tribes, Oswin's behavior has him losing
> face and means that he cannot hold the loyalty of his men... and sure enuf
> Oswin's cousin, Oswy, convener of Whitby, knocks him off shortly thereafter.
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> example two: when sichar and chramnisind are drinking (Gregory of Tours,
> HF, 9.19) and Chramnesind indelicately mentions the feud they had once been
> part of and Sichar kills him on the spot because he realizes that everyone
> considers him a woman for becoming friends with the murderer of his relatives.
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> any others? i'd like to have a dozen or so case studies.
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> r
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