medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Peter the Venereal translate the Koran? I usually ignore medieval venereals,
venerables, and venarials unless--if he did translate the Koran or even part of
it he becomes of interest to me.
V. K. Inman
Quoting Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]>:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> Jonathan Hall <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if anyone knew offhand of evidence that Christian
> Europe was aware of coffee before the sixteenth century (through
> Christian-Muslim contact in Spain or through travels to N. Africa or
> the Middle East).
>
>
> well, the story i have is that Peter the Venereal became aware of it during
> the course of his project of translating the Koran, but didn't realise what
> he
> had until his friend, Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair, on his way to Rome in 1139,
> turned *his* friend Bernie onto it as a fine medium for diluting his Irish
> whiskey a bit (and thereby lengthening the Holy Man's life by, perhaps,
> decades).
>
> not to be out done, Abelard adapted it for Calvados dilution, as well; to
> which expropriation Bernie took Great Umbridge (thus, the *real* root of the
> animosity between them).
>
> documentation is difficult to come by, but i'm sure that something like this
> must have been what happened.
>
> all this will no doubt be the subject of a chapter in the forthcomming book
> on
> _Twelfth Century Networking: How It Worked_, by one of our new list members.
>
> best from here,
>
> christopher
>
>
> "What about the older ones [Indians] ?"
>
> "Well, we can't seem to cure them of the idea that our Everyday Life is only
> an Illusion, behind which is the Reality of Dreams"
>
> --Werner Herzog's "Fitzcarraldo"
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