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Re: [Re: [M-R] [Re: [M-R] Position of Hell]]

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John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>

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Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture <[log in to unmask]>

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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

Thanks, chris, for this interesting thought about exterior plastering of churches constructed of such stone.  Another locale where this sort of construction is common is Norwich (home of Dave Julian, we now learn).  Perhaps someone who's familiar with Norridge records and local history could say whether churches there are are known to have been so plastered.  Best, John Dillon

On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:24:20 -0500
 Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>Rob Howe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
<snip>
>
>>If the main door is elsewhere (eg. at Rasca it is on the south facade) then
>the doom may be found there, or on the door-less west wall, as at Voronet. The
>quality of Voronet is particularly noteworthy:
>
>> http://www.itcnet.ro/folk_festival/cd/mmedia/rai/v1ma.htm
>
>
>nice example.
>
>i don't see any reason why we should dismiss the possibility that some Western
>churches --especially before the 13th century (just to pick an arbitrary
>date)-- were not painted on the outside like this one is.
>
>just because not a single example has survived (to my uncertain knowledge).
>
>i'm thinking particularly of churches in regions where good building stone is
>hard to find, as in many areas of the Chartrain Beauce and the Perche.
>
>many churches there are built of baseball-sized stones of chert or flint, set
>in a kind of cement/mortar ; being hard to come by, dressed ashlar stone is
>reserved for, perhaps, portals, window jambs and tops, and interior
>architectural elements like bases, capitals, imposts....
>
>the exterior (and interior) walls were stuccoed and/or plastered.
>
>it is certain that the interior walls were frescoed, and i see no reason to
>think that the exterior ones were not, as well.
>
>the best example i can think of is the late 11th/early 12th c. church of
>Dangeau, Southwest of Chartres
>
>http://www.trekearth.com/images/photos/1107/dangeau.jpg
>
>http://perso.club-internet.fr/thruelle/images/ph000069.jpg
>
>http://www.francebalade.com/maine/perchgouet.gif (between BROU and Bonneval)
>
>
>the church of Dangeau is a precious and rather rare surviving example of
>"romanesque" in the region, and has a modest portal with sculpted archivolts
>--my memory is dim, but there may be scenes of the Last Judgement on those.
>
>in any event, just imagining these churches lavishly painted on the exterior
>is an interesting Mind Game.
>
>best from here,
>
>christopher
>
>~.:.~.:.~.:.~.:.~~.:.~.:.~.:.~.:.~~.:.~.:.~.:.~.:.~
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Neologism :
>
>"Rumsfail (rums' fail), v., 1. To self-destruct, melt-down or implode under
>the weight of one's own arrogance. 2. To fail spectacularly, particularly in
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>policy failure so utterly abject and miserable as to approach the realm of the
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>prisoner abuse scandal revealed the war in Iraq to be nothing short of a
>rumsfailure." See also: 'Karma'"
>
>http://www.freewayblogger.com/weblog.htm
>
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