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Re: saint Aude and her cult

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"John B. Dillon" <[log in to unmask]>

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Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:40:52 -0500

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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture

Dear Andre-Yves,

My intent in passing on the information from the "Santi Beati" site was not 
to endorse the latter's brief entry but rather to point you in the 
direction of scholarly literature concerning the Alda celebrated at 
Meaux.  "Santi Beati" entries are often derived directly from those in the 
_Bibliotheca Sanctorum_ and thus often have a learned background worth 
considering, even if the underlying argumentation turns out to be less than 
persuasive.  In this case the entry's source is that in the _BS_ (vol. 1, 
cols. 735-36; Alfonso M. Zimmermann, "Alda, vergine, santa").  Zimmermann 
says that the Alda of the Proprium of Meaux, 18 October, is clearly to be 
identified with Aldegonde of Maubeuge, whose translation was commemorated 
there on the same day (for this commemoration at Maubeuge, cf. Carnandet's 
ed. novissima of the _Acta Sanctorum_, Oct. tom. 8, p. 272, citing a "nona 
lectio" for this month in the Maubeuge propers).  Before dismissing out of 
hand this argument based on similarity of names and identity of dates one 
might first find out whether 18 October has been correctly cited both for 
the celebration of Alda at Meaux and for a translation (vel sim.) of 
Aldegonde at Maubeuge.

Out of curiosity, what sustains your view that Aude (Alda) celebrated at 
Paris is identical with the Alda celebrated at Meaux?

Best again,
John Dillon

At 09:28 AM 4/16/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>Thanks John.
>
>For what I know, Aldegonda, abbess of Maubeuge, whose dies natalis is on 
>the 30th of January, is entirely distinct from Aude, whose dies natalis is 
>on the 18th of November, as it is mentionned for exemple in the Liturgical 
>Calendar for Paris c.1380, ms. Copenhaguen, Thott 146 2°, Oct.Sci Martini 
>ix lec. Aude virginis Mem.*
>
>Andre-Yves
>
>*http://www.chd.dk/cals/th146cal.html
>
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