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Re: down town guy

From:

Alan Penn <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:51:28 -0000

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Scotland being notoriously damp has always had this high road low rod thing
going on:

O ye'll tak' the high road and I'll tak' the low road,
An' I'll be in Scotland afore ye;
But me and my true love will never meet again
On the bonnie, bonnie banks O' Loch Lomond.

Alan 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Michael MacLean
> Sent: 03 November 2004 09:55
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: down town guy
> 
> Or another example, this one from (I think) Paisley
> in Scotland, where the town is divided by altitude into:
> "Spam Valley" and "High Living"
> 
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Irene Lopez de Vallejo
> Sent: 02 November 2004 19:19
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: down town guy
> 
> 
> Or in Bilbao (Basque Contry, Spain) : Margen Derecha/Margen Izquierda of
> the
> River. In this case, the river divides not only the city of Bilbao, but
> form
> there to the sea (aprox 10 km) in each bank there are different cities:
> Right Bank - the posh cities/towns such as Las Arenas, Getxo
> Left Bank - the poor, industrial cities/towns such as Barakaldo, Sestao,
> Portugalete
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> 
> Quoting Frederico de Holanda <[log in to unmask]>:
> 
> > Or in Paris: rive gauche / rive droite...
> >
> > Or in Rio: north zone / south zone...
> >
> > Or in Brasília: Pilot Plan / the rest...
> >
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> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Alan Penn
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:40 AM
> >   Subject: Re: down town guy
> >
> >
> >   I guess similar spatial concepts exits in the European city in terms
> of
> >   'left bank' and 'right bank'...?
> >
> >   Alan
> >
> >
> >   > -----Original Message-----
> >   > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On
> >   > Behalf Of Noah Raford
> >   > Sent: 02 November 2004 10:46
> >   > To: [log in to unmask]
> >   > Subject: Re: down town guy
> >   >
> >   > Dear Tom,
> >   >
> >   > I understand how you feel because these terms are often used for
> mixed
> >   > meanings.  Hopefully as an American planner I can offer some helpful
> >   > suggestions.
> >   >
> >   > The terms up-town, mid-town, and down-town relate more to the
> geography
> >   > of a specific city (such as Manhattan) than to technical planning
> terms.
> >   > "Downtown" refers to low numbered streets, often in the historic
> centre
> >   > of town, while "uptown" refers to high numbered streets (like 4th
> Street
> >   > versus 152nd Street).  But they often carry socio-economic
> implications
> >   > as well and can be suggestive of the types of land-uses in each
> area.
> >   >
> >   > In general, "downtown" refers to the central business district (CBD)
> and
> >   > is roughly akin to the City here in London.  Skyscrapers, financial
> >   > institutions, and often government offices in the case of many US
> >   > cities.  Most American cities don't really have a "midtown", but
> this
> >   > could be thought of as the medium density, lower rent offices, light
> >   > industrial, entertainment / service oriented parts of town, often
> with
> >   > some housing.  Finally, "uptown" tends to be where all the posh
> folks
> >   > live in expensive old flats.  It is near the city centre, has high
> end
> >   > retail, etc.  Kind of like Kensington, except that most US cities
> don't
> >   > have neighbourhoods that posh!
> >   >
> >   > All of these are different from suburbs, which tend to be dominated
> by
> >   > single family, free standing residential ranch houses.
> >   >
> >   > Hope this helps!
> >   >
> >   > Noah
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > -----Original Message-----
> >   > From: Tom Dine [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >   > Sent: 02 November 2004 10:28
> >   > To: [log in to unmask]
> >   > Subject: down town guy
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > Dear All
> >   >
> >   > It might seem a silly question, but can anyone help me with the
> terms
> >   > up-town, mid-town and down-town, which I find in a lot of American
> >   > literature.
> >   >
> >   > I know that down-town is used for the commercial centre of the city,
> >   > which seems paradoxical for the most expensive property.
> >   >
> >   > But what about the other terms?  Do they have any spatial
> significance
> >   > (like suburb / centre)?  do they refer to land-use (housing,
> industrial
> >   > etc)? or do they refer to social class / economic status?
> >   >
> >   > thanks   Tom
> >   >
> >   >  Thomas Dine
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