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Re: surveillance

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timothy murray <[log in to unmask]>

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timothy murray <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:26:03 -0400

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>Regarding Andrew's call for a critique of surveillance, I'd like to
>call your attention to some net.art and theory projects in this area
>that I've grouped together under the rubric of "digital terror" for
>a guest selection at http://www.low-fi.org.uk/.


Hope some of these links prove to be helpful.

Tim

>  There are 4 messages totalling 211 lines in this issue.
>
>Topics of the day:
>
>   1. locative? tracked! (4)
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:46:52 +0100
>From:    Andrew Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: locative? tracked!
>
>Hello. My name's Andrew Wilson and I'm one of this months invited
>contributors. I started in this direction - "locative media"? - in 2000
>with a WAP site project called The Bus Stop Poems which was meant to be
>"poems on the underground from anywhere in the world" and kept going.
>
>marc tuters wrote:
>
>"My point, I guess, is that while surveillance is in some crucial way
>at the core of this new medium, we should perhaps look to develop a
>more sophisticated critique than just dragging out Foucault
><foucault.info/documents/disciplineAndPunish/
>foucault.disciplineAndPunish.panOpticism.html>"
>
>For practical reasons I think I agree with that, just because there must
>be more fun and enlightening things to invent with locative media (if
>that's what it's called and whatever it is. Is there a definition of
>that phrase anywhere?) than "watch out, they're behind you!"
>
>Andrew
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:59:11 +0500
>From:    yasir <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: locative? tracked!
>
>In terms of theory I think it might be useful to let some new
>geographers speak. Imaginary geographies, phantasies on the one hand and
>geographical imaginations in geographical timewarps, and ethnoscapes of
>people and media migrating or streaming or bouncing across the globe
>forming new mixes of things, on the other. Identities, well okay, as
>labels.
>
>In terms of technology it is the capability, the gps, of being in
>constant remote communicationn with entities which are both social and
>physical people or animals or objects. Every object becomes a space
>probe but inside the defining sphere of the gps - anything beyond is
>space exploration and attempting to communicate with aliens.
>
>Combined with the internet this capability combines with the social
>streams and corpuscles and flows of the internet. Now the probes can be
>made to do things like have realtions with other probes. Coordinate act
>together, and form relations, both old and new, have an architecture, a
>social setup. Here is the where the qustion mark is.
>
>For example behaviour, action or commands on the internet may have a
>counterpart among the gps probes and feelers as they are in the
>non-virual world, whether deliberate or not. there is social cognitive
>play between the virtual/nonvirtual and the global/spacial. In another
>vein these are forms of feedback circuitry to our existing social and
>information and even biological systems.  Answers and examples are out
>there.
>
>But the point of the email is to link the =geography, place and space=
>of social geography with gps and the net, with just one reference to
>surveillance.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:29:05 -0700
>From:    Glen Redpath <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: locative? tracked!
>
>Are you all familiar with
>
>www.geocaching.com
>
>Sometime when I am out there running with my Garmin I feel like a pirate
>searching for treasure.
>
>Play on!
>
>Glen
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Curating digital art - www.newmedia.sunderland.ac.uk/crumb/
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of yasir
>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:59 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] locative? tracked!
>
>
>In terms of theory I think it might be useful to let some new
>geographers speak. Imaginary geographies, phantasies on the one hand and
>geographical imaginations in geographical timewarps, and ethnoscapes of
>people and media migrating or streaming or bouncing across the globe
>forming new mixes of things, on the other. Identities, well okay, as
>labels.
>
>In terms of technology it is the capability, the gps, of being in
>constant remote communicationn with entities which are both social and
>physical people or animals or objects. Every object becomes a space
>probe but inside the defining sphere of the gps - anything beyond is
>space exploration and attempting to communicate with aliens.
>
>Combined with the internet this capability combines with the social
>streams and corpuscles and flows of the internet. Now the probes can be
>made to do things like have realtions with other probes. Coordinate act
>together, and form relations, both old and new, have an architecture, a
>social setup. Here is the where the qustion mark is.
>
>For example behaviour, action or commands on the internet may have a
>counterpart among the gps probes and feelers as they are in the
>non-virual world, whether deliberate or not. there is social cognitive
>play between the virtual/nonvirtual and the global/spacial. In another
>vein these are forms of feedback circuitry to our existing social and
>information and even biological systems.  Answers and examples are out
>there.
>
>But the point of the email is to link the =geography, place and space=
>of social geography with gps and the net, with just one reference to
>surveillance.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:52:16 +0300
>From:    marc <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: locative? tracked!
>
>Andrew Wilson wrote:
>
>>  there must
>>  be more fun and enlightening things to invent with locative media (if
>>  that's what it's called and whatever it is. Is there a definition of
>>  that phrase anywhere?) than "watch out, they're behind you!"
>
>I like Ed Mac Gillavry's <www.webmapper.net> definition: "an initiative=20=
>
>to collectively create models of real-world locations online, that=20
>people can then access and use to virtually annotate locations in=20
>space. The value of the annotations is determined by physical and=20
>social proximity (expressed in distance and =93degrees of separation=94).=20=
>
>Thus, the information is not only filtered based on proximity, but also=20=
>
>ranked according to the trust one person has in another person through=20=
>
>social networks"
>
>but that may be a bit a bit of a functional definition... too much web=20=
>
>cartography (i guess in that sense responding with yasir's call) and=20
>not enough art.
>
>According to wikipedia: "The locative case corresponds vaguely to the=20
>preposition "in", "at", or "by" of English and indicates a final=20
>location of action or a time of the action."=20
><en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locative_case>
>
>But regarding "more fun and enlightening things to invent with locative=20=
>
>media... than "watch out, they're behind you!""... i don't mean to=20
>suggest that vigilance re: surveillance shouldn't be a foremost concern=20=
>
>in locative work, but rather... I'd propose that _it's already there,=20
>at the core of what's motivated much of the work _ so much so, in fact,=20=
>
>that it almost goes without saying...  (not sure if anyone's with me=20
>here...)
>
>If we follow Ed's definition from above... building a "accessible" maps=20=
>
>where location is, for example, measured by degrees of trust... that's=20=
>
>a perilous path no doubt (Friendster ---> Total Information Awareness)=20=
>
>but it's also an activist project towards constructing what i reckon=20
>(as I suggested in my first post to) amounts to a new public realm,=20
>accessed by the most "accessible" communications technology in history,=20=
>
>the mobile phone...
>
>Of the people I've met who're making mapping hacks for mobile devices,=20=
>
>they're doing so because they're feel like they want to, or _need to_=20
>do something.
>
>The artists, hackers, activists, whatever[ists]... that I am thinking=20
>of (such a large proportion of whom are from the UK), have a  profound=20=
>
>concern & commitment to public life...
>
>Is it any coincidence that in the UK (where CCTV is most prevalent)=20
>technological SURVEILLANCE is just a fact of everyday life...
>
>It's not some theory about "normative biopower" (although that applies=20=
>
>in spades too)... IT JUST _IS_!
>
>M=
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of NEW-MEDIA-CURATING Digest - 14 Apr 2004 to 15 Apr 2004 (#2004-48)
>************************************************************************


--
Timothy Murray
Professor of Comparative Literature and English
Director of Graduate Studies in Film and Video
Curator, The Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art, Cornell Library
Co-Curator, CTHEORY Multimedia: http://ctheorymultimedia.cornell.edu
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