There are the services run on our behalf by the staff (and determined by
the committees), *in addition to* the valuable work of members in
branches and sigs. Perhaps it is because those central services are
paid for by our subs, or are charged for, that they are such an issue?
Of course, its also true that the committees who agree policy are also
members, and represent us all.
And I am all for us working together- doesn't have to be an 'us and
them' situation between paid staff and members, or one between ordinary
members and those on council.
I don't know if its been addressed yet re my query on what mechanism
exists for contacting/discussing issues with members of council? How do
we have an influence/say on policy decisions and what the executive
focus on? Needs to be something in addition to the AGM.
Does anyone know of another membership organisation where things run
more smoothly between the various parties (staff, members, members in
power?) Is there anything we can learn from them?
Fiona
-----Original Message-----
From: Ajibade, Tayo [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 08 November 2004 17:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: CILIP effectiveness
I disagree. CILIP effectiveness is a function of the members
participation. Members participate in branches and special interest
groups. The work of every branch and special interest group does count!
Every person who is a member of CILIP and participates in activities
based on that membership contributes to the effectiveness of CILIP.
Ordinary members, executive, council, branches and special interest
groups are CILIP. CILIP HQ is our executive. As we are all part of
CILIP, if we want things to improve, we need to work together.
If a specific course is needed in a particular area:
(1) Are there members in the area willing to host a course if enough
local members in that area expressed an interest?
(2) Has anyone contacted the local branch, CILIP member services team or
the CILIP training team to ask if the course could be held locally?
There are certain functions the executive perform on our behalf. If we
want more staff effort/resources spent on real membership activities and
concerns, let us help them to focus. Simplifying the collection of
subscriptions and giving all CILIP members the opportunity to pay by
instalments, would be a step in the right direction. It is a win/win
situation, as the cost which is difficult to meet in one go, if you
personally have to pay for your membership, can then be spread out,
everyone will be able to benefit from the early bird discount,
subscription payments become manageable within a person's budget.
If we think more long term, simpler automated subscription renewals,
with the member services team focused on recruiting new members instead
chasing lapsed ones, might lead to a greater overall reduction in
membership subscriptions or a freeze as the total number of CILIP
members increased.
Let us all work together to be constructive. When we complain about the
effectiveness of CILIP, we are actually complaining about ourselves.
Tayo Ajibade
CILIP in London Committee Member
-----Original Message-----
From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Fiona McLean
Sent: 08 November 2004 16:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: CILIP effectiveness
I quite agree with you. All the work of the branches and groups needs to
be separate in this particular debate. It hardly involves CILIP
staff/resources in any effort!
I cant remember any outside London either (but haven't been looking).
-----Original Message-----
From: Carsten Mandt [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 08 November 2004 16:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: CILIP effectiveness
I didn't mean to do injustice to the special interest groups etc that do
run
courses outside of London but nevertheless, over the few years I've been
a
member of CILIP I can't recall seeing any advertisements for courses run
by
CILIP itself that were not in London. But that might just be my patchy
memory...
Carsten Mandt
> Carsten Mandt wrote:
>
> > Considering how all the training courses CILIP offers are also
always
> > London-based maybe CILIP should introduce a tiered subscriptions
system
> > based on how far your (UK) base is from London, not on how much you
> earn.
>
> CILIP's courses are *not* always London based. The Branches and
Special
> Interest Groups run courses around the country. I can't quote chapter
> and verse on all of them but over the last year UKeIG, for example,
has
> organised meetings and workshops in Newcastle, Manchester, Birmingham,
> Belfast, Glasgow and Edinburgh.
>
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