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Subject:

Re: Journals disappearing from ScienceDirect

From:

Don Taylor <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:50:17 -0700

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Hello,
I asked this question of our Elsevier rep last week and the response was
pretty much "I'm not sure". The rep said that Elsevier had retained the
rights to the backfile and that perhaps the disappearance is only
temporary. As of now he still has no explanation for the disappearance.
Bye for now,
Don Taylor


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Donald Taylor
Electronic Resources Librarian      email: [log in to unmask]
Simon Fraser University Library     ph: 604-291-4930
8888 University Drive                    fax: 604-291-3023
Burnaby, BC, Canada  V5A 1S6


At 12:20 PM 19/08/2004 +0100, Lesley Crawshaw wrote:
>Hi Julia,
>
>We'd like an answer to this as well as our catalogue still has a link to SD
>for 1993-2002, and of course ingenta has never had the 1993-1994 former
>Academic Press backfiles. Maybe Blackwell Publishing has the backfiles now,
>although they aren't showing on Synergy?
>
>Cheers
>Lesley
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Lesley Crawshaw, Faculty Information Consultant,
>Learning and Information Services,
>University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, AL10 9AB UK
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>phone:  01707 284662      fax: 01707 284666
>web: http://www.herts.ac.uk/lis/subjects/natsci/ejournal/
>list owner: [log in to unmask]
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of J.M.Burke
>Sent: 19 August 2004 11:58
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Journals disappearing from ScienceDirect
>
>
>Hi all
>
>Speaking of issues going missing does anyone know where 'Journal of Fish
>Biology' years 1993-1994 which were previously on SD are now? I know that
>since the publisher changed in 2003 the 2 most recent volumes are on
>Blackwell Synergy and that 1995-2002 are on IngentaSelect (although the
>volume/issue details for v.48 & 49 look a bit odd? and we currently have
>variable access) but where are 1993-1994? We previously had a link to SD for
>1993-2002 but the issues there have disappeared altogether the link now
>says:
>
>'Your request cannot be completed. The journal requested is not available in
>this product'
>
>Any help appreciated...
>
>Julia
>-------------------------------------
>Julia Burke
>Acquisitions/Serials Librarian
>University of Wales Bangor
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>tel: 01248 382975
>-------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>Lesley Crawshaw wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This may not be relevant to your problems, but...
> >
> > We had several problems earlier this year with our ScienceDirect
> > account. I had decided I would cross check our access  for all the
> > content on ScienceDirect against a spreadsheet I've been maintaining
> > ever since we signed our first SD contract. As I began this process a
> > number of problems began to appear. First I found that we had lost
> > access to the 1993 and 1994 issues of our Academic Press titles, which
> > we had licensed under the terms of a previous deal. Then I  found that
> > we had lost access to some titles just because they had ceased
> > publication. Then I found that our access to some former Harcourt
> > Health Science titles had ceased. Then a couple of students informed
> > me that they couldn't access the latest issues of Environmental
> > Pollution, one of our subscribed etitles. On checking again it became
> > apparent that we had lost 2004 access to all our subscribed etitles.
> > The worse thing about all of this was that somethings changed as I was
> > checking, meaning I had to keep going back again and checking. In fact
> > as is often the case I never managed to complete the checking of all
> > our access on SD, as I suddenly found we had another set of access
> > problems with another major publisher!
> >
> > I should say that once identified all the problems on ScienceDirect
> > were resolved very quickly. However, the onus is on us to identify the
> > problems, and that is a very onerous task indeed.
> >
> > At the time we seemed to be the only institution (we are still under
> > the terms of the NESLI license, not the NESLI2 license), which was
> > experiencing these problems, so I never bought it to the attention of
> > the list.
> >
> > These sorts of problems are certainly not restricted to ScienceDirect.
> > We seem to have had so many problems with our eaccess to all kinds of
> > publishers and services this year.
> >
> > In fact, subscription access control systems seem to be a major
> > weakness in many  ejournal delivery services. Whether it relates to
> > poor quality subscription data held by the publisher or the links
> > between the publisher's subscription/collection data and the systems
> > that host the subscriptions/collections I really can't be sure. It is
> > certainly an area where improvement is urgently needed. We are after
> > all at the end of the day paying substantial amounts of money for
> > these services. Why should the onus then be on us to make sure we have
> > access to what we have paid for? The onus must be on the publisher to
> > make sure that their subscribers get the service they have paid for.
> >
> > Anyway, time to look at the next problem!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lesley
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Lesley Crawshaw, Faculty Information Consultant,
> > Learning and Information Services,
> > University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, AL10 9AB UK
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > phone:  01707 284662      fax: 01707 284666
> > web: http://www.herts.ac.uk/lis/subjects/natsci/ejournal/
> > list owner: [log in to unmask]
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eileen Jamieson
> > Sent: 19 August 2004 09:16
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Journals disappearing from ScienceDirect
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>We have had a recurring problem with journals suddenly disappearing
> >
> >>from our subscribed list on ScienceDirect (and Web Editions before
> >
> >>this). This week I've just discovered another 10 are missing. That's
> >>about 15% of our Elsevier e-journals that we can't get full text
> >>access to. It doesn't seem to be related to subs renewal, but I could
> >>be wrong about this. I would be interested in knowing how widespread
> >>this problem is. Has anyone else had this problem, or is it just us?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Ms Eileen Jamieson
> >>Electronic Services Group
> >>
> >>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >>Acquisitions Section                              Tel: +44 (0)20 7942 5634
> >>Library and Information Services
> >>The Natural History Museum                 Fax: +44 (0)20 7942 5764
> >>Cromwell Road
> >>London
> >>http://www.nhm.ac.uk/library
> >>SW7 5BD
> >>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
>
>
>
>--
>-------------------------------------
>Julia Burke
>Acquisitions/Serials Librarian
>University of Wales Bangor
>Main Library, College Road
>Bangor, Gwynedd LL57 2DG
>e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>tel: 01248 382975
>fax: 01248 382979
>-------------------------------------

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