Why do you assume no librarian is from Oxbridge...?

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From: E.S. Rees [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 09 January 2004 14:18
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Local job centre: from the horse's mouth


All of the jobs for 15k in the interactive job centre touch screen are under

skilled labour - checked today - I think that to expect to work with an MA 
and chartered for this amount, and then go for jobs in which they say 
"salary negotiable" tells you a lot about where we stand: at the skilled 
labour end !

And, by the looks of it, things are getting worse (or, to put it another 
way, why work as "acting librarian"/fee staff/"casual freelance" etc waiting

until management make up their minds (and proceed to give the good jobs to 
their Oxbridge chums) when you can earn more as a manager in other sectors 
(using the same skills these days).

Emilce


>From: "Sarah Bruch" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask], Subject: Re: Looking for a job?
>Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:50:15 +0000
>
>You got offered £15k, that's the top of my scale.This was one of the things

>that annoyed me with the fire-fighters, they were saying it's impossible to

>live on such a small amount, but many librarians and the specialties within

>information work have to.
>
>Incidently those of us out there with degrees pertinent to our jobs within 
>an NHS library should be on A & C 5 when Agenda for Change comes into 
>force. I'm currently trying to get hold of any job descriptions which would

>help me with my case for being bumped up a grade (i'm currently A & C 4 on 
>just over £14k). I'm determined to get the higher grade but don't know if 
>the powers that be will see it the same way.
>
>Sarah
>
>
>Sarah Bruch
>Multidisciplinary Library
>Prince Philip Hospital
>Dafen
>Llanelli
>Carmarthenshire
>SA14 8QF
>
>Tel/Fax: 01554 749301
>
> >>> "E.S. Rees" <[log in to unmask]> 08-Jan-04 2:16:37 pm >>>
>I'm really glad that the issue of LIS staff being demoted within the sytem
>is at last being mentioned - so far these last 3 years NOBODY seemed to be
>taken this demotion of LIS staff seriously (look at some jobs - Acting
>librarian of a specialised medical library, appointed at AR1, in central
>London - any receptionist makes more than 21k a year).
>
>A recent joke: applying for an indexer (specialised) job "to fit in with
>your other academic duties" (not advertised in the CILIP supplement, that I
>recall, which is usually taken to mean serious money). When I finally go to
>the interview (the wait, the room I had to wait in, all was signalling
>"oh-oh" to me, but decided to be "positive"). The fact that they didn't
>answer my email regarding "salary negotiable" should have rung strong bells
>- the top salary for this was no more than 15k, pro rata (remember what a
>senior official said recently about the Ian Huntley case "what kind of
>people you get for 15k ?").
>
>Emilce Rees
>
>
> >From: Sue Lawson <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Sue Lawson <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Looking for a job?
> >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 12:42:42 -0000
> >
> >Laura wrote "However I'm feeling quite positive about a pilot job
> >evaluation scheme
> >we're involved in at the moment."
> >
> >After recent job evaluations in Manchester Library and Information 
>Service
> >librarians (scale 4-6) no longer exist and are to be replaced by Library
> >and Information Officers (scale 5). No formal library or information
> >management qualifications are necessary.
> >
> >Sue Lawson
> >Librarian
> >Manchester Library and Information Service
> >Central Library
> >St Peters Square
> >Manchester
> >M2 5PD
> >
> >Tel: 0161 234 1995
> >Fax: 0161 237 5974
> >Email: [log in to unmask]
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