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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 7 Mar 2004 to 8 Mar 2004 (#2004-69)
There are 21 messages totalling 613 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. aestheticism and novels (5)
2. "beating the devil's tattoo"
3. Income of Prominent Victorians (4)
4. women on trial for murder
5. "One of the Crowd" = James Greenwood?
6. Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezaii" (5)
7. Gideon Busley
8. De Quincey reference: an unnamed "man in the last century"
9. photography in American Fiction
10. Thanks RE: Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezai i"
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:54:45 EST
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Subject: Re: aestheticism and novels
Aubrey Beardsley's _Under the Hill_ might be an interesting addition. It's
short (and unfinished), but an addition nonetheless. The Creation Books
edition of this text and Wilde's _Salome_ (as well as Beardsley's
illustrations) provides a tidy and fitting pairing of two
decadent/aesthetic texts.
Emily D. Wicktor
GTA, Department of English
Watson Library Reference Assistant
University of Kansas
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 06:37:42 -0000
From: simon poe <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: aestheticism and novels
My first thought was Marius, too, but wonderful and essential though it is I
couldn't recommend it as a first taste of Pater. It's not a novel, but I
think the only place to start with him is at the beginning, with The
Renaissance. You can't not include him. You COULD try Imaginary Portraits,
which is sort of fiction and comes in bite sized pieces. And what about
Robert Hichen's The Green Carnation? Or Beardsley's Venus and Tannhauser? Or
WH Mallock's The New Republic? Or, and I don't know why I didn't think of
this before all the others, what about one of Morris's late romances?
Simon Poë
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 07:34:57 -0000
From: simon poe <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: aestheticism and novels
Further to my last posting, and it's probably an impertinence to imagine
that you need reminding of this, but if you used The Renaissance, you could
also use Yeats' recasting of the passage about the Mona Lisa in his Oxford
Book of Modern Verse as a sidelight on the character of Aesthetic prose.
Simon Poë
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:06:04 -0000
From: Valerie Gorman <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: "beating the devil's tattoo"
Much later but I believe Ray Bradbury's Illustrated Man was inspired by
Haggard.
Valerie Gorman
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:55:23 +0000
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?S=20Fletcher?= <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: aestheticism and novels
--- Jill Ehnenn <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >
theme my next Victorian Lit class (multigenre,
> junior/senior seminar) around British Aestheticism.
> I have lots of ideas for poetry, essays, visuals,
> even some short stories, but I am drawing a complete
> blank for novels<<
Dear Jill
The difficulty is not so much thinking of suitable
titles, but coming up with things currently in print.
Number one choice has to be *The Picture of Dorian
Gray*, but I'd also suggest Lucas Malet's *Sir Richard
Calmady*, now back in print with Birmingham UP. They
also have a new women's short story collection (whose
name escapes me for the moment), Egerton's *Keynotes*
and other titles that might be relevant, on their
list.
Best,
Sunie Fletcher
University of Exeter.
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:15:37 +0000
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Keith=20Ramsey?= <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Income of Prominent Victorians
During the course of my research on Frances Waldegrave
I've managed to assemble a reasonably accurate dataset
of her income from about 1850 to 1879 (although it's
only accurate in the sense that what data I have is
correct - the fact that some data is missing means
that what I've actually got is a set of minimum income
figures based on her largest source of income).
What I'm looking for now are similar figures for some
of her contemporaries for comparison purposes. My
problem is that most biographers seem to fight shy of
giving any income data, and ever fewer provide figures
for a run of years.
Has anyone come across any published source of such
data for any prominent Victorian between about 1850
and 1880?
Keith Ramsey
Bristol Business School
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 06:40:24 -0800
From: Heather Wenig <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: women on trial for murder
Mary Elizabeth Braddon's Aurora Floyd contains
suspicion that a woman has killed her first husband.
George Eliot's The Lifted Veil tells the story of a
man who becomes aware, through his clairvoyance, of
his wife's plan to poison him.
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:09:27 -0600
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Subject: Re: Income of Prominent Victorians
In writing a book about the Victorian medical profession I examined
medical incomes extensively (based almost entirely on estate values at the
time of death, but including a few individual incomes as well).
The full citation is:
M. Jeanne Peterson, _The Medical Profession in Mid-Victorian London_
(Berkeley and London: University of California Press, 1978).
I'd be happy to discuss this matter with you further, probably best one to
one.
Jeanne Peterson
Indiana University, Bloomington
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:24:54 -0000
From: Lee Jackson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: "One of the Crowd" = James Greenwood?
Hi all - another plea for help. I've just stumbled across two collections
of journalistic pieces, entitled "Toilers in London" and "The Mysteries of
Modern London" by a certain "One of the Crowd" which I hope to digitise.
I've seen two pieces from the latter attributed to James Greenwood in one
of the ?Chatto & Windus? compilations a couple of years back but I wonder
if anyone can confirm this from another source; they certainly look like
his work ... individual chapters include
TOILERS IN LONDON -
Girls of the Factory; At the Pawnbrokers; Girls of the Counter; The Maid
of All Work; Watercress Sellers; The Thames Waterman; Small Pedlers; The
London Rustic; The School Board Visitors; Ghosts of London by Night;
Covent Garden Market; Sackcloth and Ashes; Brave Little Men; Only a
Coster; Whitechapel Villagers; To the "Derby" Afoot; Garret-masters and
Slaughter Work; Working Dogs; Doctor Quackinbosh; Gleaners of the Thames
Bank; Umbrellas to Mend
THE MYSTERIES OF MODERN LONDON
A Beggarman's Bunker; Miraculous cures; Worship Street Police Court; A
Hungry Dinner Party; Frostbitten; The Shady Side of the Billiard Table; A
tale of dismal swamps; Street entertainments; Waiting for the bells;
Buried by the parish; Poor Polly's Playthings; Lambeth Police Court; A
Tamed Dragon; Under One Roof; Girls of the Brickfields; A Criminal Supper
Party; Our Poor old horses; A Maidstone Flitting
The only internal evidence mentions publication in the "Daily Telegraph" -
does anyone know the source of these pieces?
regards
Lee
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:16:09 -0600
From: Martin A Danahay <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezaii"
In "The Sign of Four" Watson refers to his "Jezaii injury." From context I
assume this is the name of a tribe in Afghanistan - but would anybody be
able to corroborate this or is it a fictional reference in the story? I
can't find any Jezaii on the web.
Martin Danahay
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:42:20 -0800
From: Erin Obermueller <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: aestheticism and novels
you could try the Vernon Lee novella (available on
line at the Victorian Woman Writers Project) like A
Worldly Woman, or her short stories Lady Tal or
Dionea. Also, if you can get a hold of it, Sara
Duncan Cotes's novel A Daughter of Today is a
brilliant response to Wilde's Dorian.
Erin Obermueller
Saint Louis University
--- Jill Ehnenn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> It is book ordering time and I am hoping to call on
> the collective widsom of the list. I would like to
> theme my next Victorian Lit class (multigenre,
> junior/senior seminar) around British Aestheticism.
> I have lots of ideas for poetry, essays, visuals,
> even some short stories, but I am drawing a complete
> blank for novels, except of course for Wilde. (I'd
> love to teach Vernon Lee's Miss Brown, but I think
> it would work better with graduate students). Any
> suggestions?
>
> This is the only Victorian course we offer, so, in
> the service of providing some sort of representative
> "coverage," I'm also open to assigning texts that
> can be read vis-a-vis Aestheticism, as opposed to
> *examples* of Aestheticism (for example, Hard Times
> as the sorts of ideas the PRBs would be working
> against).
>
> Thanks!
>
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> Assistant Professor of English
> Appalachian State University
> Boone, NC 28605
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:55:32 -0800
From: Sheldon Goldfarb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Income of Prominent Victorians
The New Dictionary of National Biography (due out from Oxford this year) is
going to include financial information on its subjects: value of estates at
death rather than annual incomes, but still it might be useful.
Sheldon Goldfarb
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:04:51 GMT
From: Lesley Hall <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezaii"
> In "The Sign of Four" Watson refers to his "Jezaii
injury."
Not Jezaii, jezail, a form of home-made rifle common
among the tribes of the North West Frontier:
'£2000 of education
Fall to a ten-rupee jezail'
Kipling, 'Frontier Arithmetic'
(Transliterations may differ)
Lesley Hall
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:56:25 -0500
From: Gerri Brightwell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezaii"
The Jezail was a type of musket used in what is now Pakistan--Watson was
fighting the Ghazis when he receives his injury.
I found several websites that describe the firearm through Google, e.g.:
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Campground/8551/firearms.html
Regards
Gerri Brightwell
Dept of English
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:31:05 -0500
From: Melissa Schaub <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezaii"
> In "The Sign of Four" Watson refers to his "Jezaii injury." From context I
> assume this is the name of a tribe in Afghanistan - but would anybody be
> able to corroborate this or is it a fictional reference in the story? I
> can't find any Jezaii on the web.
A Jezail (final L, not I) was a type of musket used during the
nineteenth century by the tribes the British were fighting in
Afghanistan. If you Google Jezail you'll find plenty of entries.
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University of North Carolina at Pembroke
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:25:35 -0000
From: Susan Hoyle <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Gideon Busley
Has anyone heard of a Gideon Busley? I have come across a mention of him in
an undated MS of a poem written in the 1820s. The whole citation is:
"Ye love your harps and organs better than your Bibles
Gideon Busley
An Irish Methodist Preacher"
It is not possible to tell whether the quote is in the original MS or is a
later addition, but I would favour an earlier rather than a later insertion.
Neither Google nor the British Library can help.
Susan
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:11:17 -0500
From: Greg Grainger <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezaii"
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:16:09AM -0600, Martin A Danahay wrote:
> In "The Sign of Four" Watson refers to his "Jezaii injury." From context I
> assume this is the name of a tribe in Afghanistan - but would anybody be
> able to corroborate this or is it a fictional reference in the story? I
> can't find any Jezaii on the web.
A 'jezail' rifle is a sniper's rifle - single shot or bolt action, with an
exeptionally long barrel for accuracy.
You will also find references to similar weapons in some of George
MacDonald Fraser's 'Flashman' books. Flashman spent a great deal of time
in Northern India, the Punjab and what is now Afghanistan.
Try a Google search for the word 'jezail' alone. Surprising what comes up.
Best,
Greg.
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:08:23 -0500
From: Terry Meyers <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Income of Prominent Victorians
> value of estates at
> death rather than annual incomes,
A site that has rather more than anyone could rationally
desire about the Swinburne family genealogy
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/8805/sirjohn.html
notes Swinburne's estate as probated at £24,282 in May 1909.
His annual income from his books (he had investments from the
money he inherited from his father) is mentioned in a number of
letters to him from his publisher Chatto and Windus. For example, in
a letter of November 6, 1900(in the firm's archives at Reading
University, as are the others I cite), C&W give this account of
Swinburne's royalties over four years:
£ s d
1897 264 13 5
1898 230 18 0
1899 229 18 2
1900 321 4 10
In a letter of November 10, 1902, the firms sends ACS an
accounting of checks they had issued to him:
Jan. 1, 1901, = 115 9 9
July 1, '' = 92 16 9
Jan. 1, 1902, = 125 2 9
July 1, '' = 107 0 9
A letter of October 4, 1907 has these royalties listed:
June 30th 1904 £81: 7:10
Dec. 31st 1904 £1179: 2:11
June 30th 1905 £176: 1:10
Dec. 31st 1905 £ 133:11: 7
June 30th 1906 £464:17: 3
Dec. 31st 1906 £185: 4:10
Much earlier, John Camden Hotten, in a letter of January 1868
sent Swinburne this account of recent rolyalties (ACS wasn't much
inclined to trust Hotten's accounts, of course):
Royalty on Mr. Hotten's Edition of Poems & Ballads 200.
-- Royalty on copies sold of "Song of Italy"
32 16 3
Royalty on New Ed. of Atalanta
75 - -
Royalty on New Ed of Chastelard
87 10 -
In the microfilm publication of William Michael Rossetti's
diary available from the University of British Columbia, some other
interesting figures on incomes can be gleaned. On Th Feb 14, 1867
WMR says that Dante Gabriel Rossetti had said to him that his (DGR's)
income in 1865 was "about £2050" and in 1866 £1800. WMR notes on T
Oct. 1 1867 his promotion at Somerset House (Internal Revenue) to
Committee Clerk "£575 to £650)." A bit earlier Th September 5 he
reports hearing that "Whitley Stokes, in India, now makes an income
of some £2300."
On M Oct. 25 1868 WMR reports hearing from Charles Augustus
Howell that Ruskin has an income of £22,000 per year, having sold the
wine business for £200,000 (paid to him as an annuity).
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:46:39 -0500
From: Anna Henchman <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: De Quincey reference: an unnamed "man in the last century"
Dear list,
I have been puzzling over a reference in Thomas De Quincey's 1846 essay
"Systems of the Heavens as Revealed by Lord Rosse's Telescopes" and I
wonder if the collective wisdom of the list might be of help. Here is the
reference:
"There was a man in the last century, and an eminent man, too, who used to
say, that whereas people in general pretended to admire astronomy as being
essentially sublime, he for his part looked upon all that sort of thing as
a swindle; and, on the contrary, he regarded the solar system as decidely
vulgar; because the planets were all of them so infernally punctual, they
kept time with such horrible precision, that they forced him, whether he
would or no, to think of nothing but post-office clocks, mail-coaches, and
book-keepers. Regularity may be beautiful, but it excludes the sublime."
Does such a statement sound familiar to anyone? Or do you have any
guesses? My instinct is that he is referring to an actual statement but I
have not been able to track it down.
Thanks in advance!
Anna Henchman
grad student at Harvard
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:45:17 EST
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Subject: Re: photography in American Fiction
Dear list:
The following query comes from a colleague of mine who doesn't belong to the
list. Although it is somewhat outside the list's expertise, I thought some
of us might have ideas. It seems best to reply off list, either to me or to
Melissa Dunn.
> As part of a dissertation project, I am looking for American fiction
(novels, short short stories, detective fiction) in the period between
1880-1918 which makes any significant reference to photography or in
which photographers appear as characters.
This material has been difficult to search for, and I would appreciate
any leads.
Melissa Dunn
The Graduate Center, City University of New York
Department of English
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Deborah Lutz, Ph.D.
English Department
Hunter College
695 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10021
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:15:06 -0600
From: Martin A Danahay <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Thanks RE: Query - Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson reference to "Jezai
i"
My thanks for the responses to my query on "Jezaii" - apparently "Jezaii" is
a typo in the extext from Project Gutenberg that I'm using in my class. As
you collectively pointed out, it should be "Jezail."
Martin Danahay
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