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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 22 Aug 2004 to 23 Aug 2004 (#2004-76)
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There are 12 messages totalling 353 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Edward Gibbon: two related queries
2. Trollope's "Miss Mackenzie" on rescue list
3. Public Celebrations of Collins
4. Introduction (2)
5. A/V Sources: Napoleon/Waterloo (4)
6. History of Victorian studies (was Victorian conduct); How
Interdisciplinary was Victorian studies
7. Thanks for info on Eliza Cook
8. A/V Sources : Napoleon/Waterloo
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 06:08:28 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Edward Gibbon: two related queries
Perhaps you know about Thomas Hardy's poem, "Lausanne: In Gibbon's Old
Garden"? It's a recreation of Gibbon's feelings upon finishing *Decline and
Fall* and was inspired by Hardy's visit to the garden.
Bill Morgan
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Illinois State University Webmail https://webmail2.ilstu.edu
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:51:10 EDT
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Trollope's "Miss Mackenzie" on rescue list
The British Library runs its Adopt-A-Book program to fund restoration of
damaged or aged books. I noticed that an 1865, 2 volume edition of "Miss
Mackenzie" is on the list of needy books looking for adopters, and thought
Victorianists might be interested.
Take it from me, adopting a book is the perfect present for the booklover who
has everything -- adopt a book in their name! They get a certificate of
adoption, and their name goes on a bookplate in the book, along with the
names of
others who have adopted the same book (unless you can afford to underwrite
the
entirety of the work on the book you choose). Once a year, adopters are
invited to the British Library (I know -- it's unfortunate for adopters
who are
overseas, but my in-laws don't seem to mind) where the adoptive parent and a
guest get to visit their book, have a free glass of wine, chat with the
staff who
restored it, see demonstrations and films of restoration work and
bookbinding, and -if they like- be photographed with their book.
You can adopt a book in your own name or as a gift, for as little as 25
pounds. Visit <A
HREF="http://www.bl.uk/about/cooperation/adopt.html">Adopt a Book</A> (if
you can't read that linke, the URL is
http://www.bl.uk/about/cooperation/adopt.html). If you're specifically
interested in the
Trollope, it's book # 656.
M.E.Foley
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:05:28 -0400
From: Casey Cothran <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Public Celebrations of Collins
Wilkie Collins also was lauded by Harry Potter author JK Rowling at her
recent reading in Edinborough:
Which books did you read when you were a child and which books do you read
now?
"When I was a child, I would read absolutely anything. My favourite books
for younger people would be I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith, which I
really love, The Little White Horse, all the classic children's books. I
love E Nesbit-I think she is great and I identify with the way that she
writes. Her children are very real children and she was quite a
groundbreaker in her day. I also read a lot of adult books. The last novel
that I read was Wilkie Collins' The Moonstone, which I have been meaning to
read for years. It is a cracking read. I have just been on holiday and, for
the first time in five years, I did not take any Iris Murdoch with me,
because it is so depressing. I was just about to put one in my case and I
thought, "Why do this? Why put yourself through this?", so I didn't bother.
I read Wilkie Collins instead and it was a much better experience."
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:36:58 +0100
From: amanda bull <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Introduction
Dear All
I am currently studying English literature at undergraduate level. My =
research interests are late Victorian fiction and poetry. I am =
considering writing a dissertation on female writers of the 1890s, =
particularly those published in The Yellow Book. At present I am reading =
George Egerton's Keynotes and Discords, Ledger/Luckhurst's Fin de Siecle =
/ A Reader in Cultural History c. 1880-1900, Elaine Showalter's =
Daughter's of Decadence. I am also interested in the Decadent movement =
in literature .... French, English and Scandinavian. I am also obsessed =
by a particular novel by Zola, The Abbe Mouret's Sin and Huysman's =
Against Nature. I have also recently become interested in erotic =
publication's such as The Pearl and The Whippingham Papers but very =
little seems to have been written about these. Any information on any of =
this and related topics would be very gratefully received.
Yours
Amanda Bull / [log in to unmask]
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:55:08 -0300
From: Rohan Maitzen <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A/V Sources: Napoleon/Waterloo
Dear colleagues,
The first three novels in my fall-term course on 19thC British fiction =
this
year are Persuasion, Waverley, and Vanity Fair. Usually I start with =
Pride
and Prejudice; this year's switch to Persuasion introduces a more =
pronounced
preoccupation with the effects of the Napoleonic wars (assuming we take
Scott's concern about national stability as a contemporary as well as a
historical issue for him). I'm trying to come up with ways to get my
students to see the significance of these wars as a kind of imaginative
backdrop for 19thC writers, with all the fear and violence and =
turbulence
that international conflict brings with it. Having recently seen =
"Master
and Commander," I am thinking about showing one of the battle-at-sea
sequences as a way of illustrating the kind of life the naval officers =
in
Persuasion would have been living, perhaps as a contrast to a scene from =
the
film adaptation of Austen's novel. I am hoping this might help generate
discussion about the relationshp between these two kinds of stories that
might then feed into discussions about Scott's "bow-wow" strain of =
history
etc. There is also a pretty good Waterloo scene in the A&E adaptation =
of
Vanity Fair. I'm wondering if list members have other suggestions of =
visual
or multi-media materials I might draw on. Is there anything that =
springs to
mind, for instance, that might give a sense of Napoleon as hero/villain?
Rohan Maitzen
Associate Professor
Department of English
Dalhousie University
(902) 494-6921
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http://is.dal.ca/~rmaitzen/home.html
"If one's meaning is so badly expressed as to be unintelligible to a =
candid
and acute critic, it must certainly be one's own fault."--Leslie Stephen
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:56:11 -0500
From: Kathleen O'Neill Sims <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A/V Sources: Napoleon/Waterloo
I'm not sure you'll like this suggestion, but have you seen *The Emperor's
New Clothes* (2001)? It stars Ian Holm as the captive Napoleon. Forces
loyal to him find a look-alike to stand in his place, while they smuggle
him back into Paris to mount a rebellion and return France to its
former "glory." Of course, what happens is that the "fake" Napoleon, a
former beggar with an uncanny resemblance to the former emperor, loves his
cushy life in "prison" and refuses to unmask himself. Meanwhile, the real
Napoleon has organized "martially" the proletariat with whom he has taken
refuge so that they are now making ends meet by selling their produce at a
profit. But most interesting, he finds out that no one really
wants "Napolean" back. There's a particularly good scene where a one-time
loyalist takes him to an asylum for the insane, and he is forced to watch a
dozen shell-shocked veterans reenact their version of himself.
The fake Napoleon dies, and the real one discovers that his new life is not
so bad.
Best,
Kathleen O'Neill Sims
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:19:09 +0100
From: Lesley Hall <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Introduction
>I have also recently become interested in
>erotic publications such as The
Pearl and
>The Whippingham Papers but very little >seems to have been
written about these.
>Any information on any of this and related
>topics
would be very gratefully received.
There was only recently a discussion on Victoria about The Pearl and
secondary studies of Victorian pornography - suggest you look at the list
archives.
https://listserv.indiana.edu/archives/victoria.html
Aug 2004 Week 3
Lesley Hall
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website http://www.lesleyahall.net
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From: "amanda bull" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 23 August 2004 16:36
Subject: Introduction
> Dear All
>
> I am currently studying English literature at undergraduate level. My
research interests are late Victorian fiction and poetry. I am considering
writing a dissertation on female writers of the 1890s, particularly those
published in The Yellow Book. At present I am reading George Egerton's
Keynotes and Discords, Ledger/Luckhurst's Fin de Siecle / A Reader in
Cultural History c. 1880-1900, Elaine Showalter's Daughter's of Decadence. I
am also interested in the Decadent movement in literature .... French,
English and Scandinavian. I am also obsessed by a particular novel by Zola,
The Abbe Mouret's Sin and Huysman's Against Nature. I have also recently
become interested in erotic publication's such as The Pearl and The
Whippingham Papers but very little seems to have been written about these.
Any information on any of this and related topics would be very gratefully
received.
>
> Yours
>
> Amanda Bull / [log in to unmask]
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:38:37 -0400
From: David Latane <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A/V Sources: Napoleon/Waterloo
Apologies if it's been mentioned, but for a grand Napoleonic vision on
Napoleon on film there's never been anything to hold a cannon to Abel
Gance's _Napeoleon_ (1927) particularly the final triple screen montage.
David Latane
Victorians Institute: http://www.vcu.edu/vij
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:55:05 +0200
From: Timothy Mason <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A/V Sources: Napoleon/Waterloo
Rohan Maitzen wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> The first three novels in my fall-term course on 19thC British fiction this
> year are Persuasion, Waverley, and Vanity Fair. Usually I start with Pride
> and Prejudice; this year's switch to Persuasion introduces a more
pronounced
> preoccupation with the effects of the Napoleonic wars (assuming we take
> Scott's concern about national stability as a contemporary as well as a
> historical issue for him). I'm trying to come up with ways to get my
> students to see the significance of these wars as a kind of imaginative
> backdrop for 19thC writers, with all the fear and violence and turbulence
> that international conflict brings with it.
Why not offer them one of the Hornblower novels? I am emboldened to make
this suggestion by an article that appeared in the Jane Austen Society
of Australia journal in 2002, entitled "Heroes, Wentworth and
Hornblower". Here's an url - http://www.jasa.net.au/sensextju02.htm#story7
Best wishes
Timothy Mason
--
Timothy Mason
Universit? de Paris 8
http://perso.club-internet.fr/tmason/index.htm
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:23:14 -0400
From: Michael Wolff <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: History of Victorian studies (was Victorian conduct); How
Interdisciplinary was Victorian studies
I want, a bit belatedly, to thank everyone for the answers to my questions
about Victorian studies and interdisciplinarity. It confirms my sense that
a) things are easier now than they were a decade or a generation
ago--perhaps because of the efforts of the pioneers; b) that there are
nevertheless "disciplinarians" who disapprove of straying beyond boundaries
which are themselves surely arbitrary, especially I should think for
Victorian Britain; and 3) that juniority and the barrier of tenure are still
features of academic life. I wonder if disciplinary methodologies which
call for specific expertises don't continue to be legitimate ways of
enlarging the spheres of knowledge. It's also a delight to hear from those
who can work in this field from outside university departments.
Michael Wolff
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:24:39 +1000
From: bradley nitins <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Thanks for info on Eliza Cook
A hearty thankyou to Lesley Hall, Ellen Jordan, MAlcom Shrifrin, Jeanne
Peterson, Sally Mitchell and David Latane, for their suggestions.
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:12:45 -0500
From: "Doris H. Meriwether" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A/V Sources : Napoleon/Waterloo
While not an A/V source, the relevant stanzas from Child Harold's
Pilgrimage, Canto III, give a graphic view of the Waterloo battle as
Byron imagined it--Stanzas XVII - XXVIII. B's description of the
Duchess of Richmond's ball makes a telling parallel to Thackery's
Waterloo battle in Vanity Fair. A few stanzas farther, Byron reflects
on Napoleon's rise and fall, XXXV - XLII, the paradoxes and ironies, and
finds in the now defeated conqueror a kindred spirit.
Doris Meriwether
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