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VICTORIA Digest - 21 Jan 2004 to 22 Jan 2004 (#2004-23) (fwd)

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Date: 23 January 2004 00:00 -0500
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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 21 Jan 2004 to 22 Jan 2004 (#2004-23)

There are 19 messages totalling 439 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. fergus hume
  2. Daily News - Thanks!!
  3. Victorian anti-vivisection history (3)
  4. Crocodiles (2)
  5. Jacob wrestling with the angel (2)
  6. Query: German Philology in British/U.S. Higher Education? (2)
  7. fellowships & grants (2)
  8. Social Investigatons (2)
  9. Social Investigation
 10. Victorian Publishing Question (2)
 11. crocodiles

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:21:29 -0500
From:    Michael Thibodeaux <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: fergus hume

Try this site.

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/aut/hume_fergus.html

Miki @
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:30:40 -0600
From:    Rachel Shulman <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Daily News - Thanks!!

Thanks to everyone who responded so quickly with help on the _Daily News_.
It was extremely helpful.  And so fast!!


Rachel Shulman
[log in to unmask]
Graduate Student
History Dept.
University of IL - Urbana Champaign

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 02:17:54 -0800
From:    "Tracey S. Rosenberg" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Victorian anti-vivisection history

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, David Philips wrote:

> Have you looked at Rick French's book -Antivivisection and medical
> science in Victorian society-(1975)?

You might also want to check Coral Lansbury's The Old Brown Dog (1985) -
these two books were extremely useful sources for me.  There was also a
history of one of the anti-vivisection societies, but I can't remember
which one - feel free to e-mail me off list if you'd like me to dig up the
details.  The Victoria-L archives might offer other sources (I recently
asked for sources linking women and vivisected animals, and got some good
responses).

I expect Sally Mitchell will have many useful suggestions, as soon as the
east coast wakes up!  :)

- Tracey S. Rosenberg [tsr AT spies DOT com]

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:40:12 -0500
From:    Sally Mitchell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Victorian anti-vivisection history

It's Cobbe's second antivivisection society (the British Union for the
Abolition of Vivisection), not the first, that has a recent book devoted
to its own history. The first (which is still in existence) has not
allowed scholars access to its papers. Aside from the books mentioned, you
might look at Frances Power Cobbe's own account in her *Life* (1894),
which has recently been republished in a very expensive edition but which
should, at any rate, be found in a good library.

I'm reading page proofs and indexing my biography of Cobbe, which will be
published by University of Virginia Press this summer, but I don't know
that I have anything of great significance to add to the account in French
and in her autobiography, though there are dates and details.

Sally Mitchell, English Department, Temple University: [log in to unmask]

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:36:34 -0400
From:    Lorraine Janzen-Kooistra <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Crocodiles

I don't know if you're interested in visual references at all, but if you're
going to consider Christina Rossetti's "My Dream," you'll also be interested
in her accompanying manuscript drawing, featuring a crocodile depending from
a tree by his tail, suspended above a sleeping female figure (dated 16
march/55).

Lorraine Janzen Kooistra
Nipissing University
North Bay, ON, Canada

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:49:18 -0700
From:    suhamilt <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Victorian anti-vivisection history

Online sources are limited, but you could look at the BUAV website -- it
has a surprising amount of history for an association site, and does
document the key events in anti-vivisection history.  It is better on some
of the turn of the century events (such as the Brown Dog riots), but there
is an account of the establishment of Victoria Street.

Otherwise, French's Antivivisection and Medical Science is still the
definitive source, especially if you want real details about the policy
differences between Victoria Street and othe anti-vivisection societies.

Dr. Susan Hamilton
Department of English
University of Alberta

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:28:08 -0500
From:    Esther T Hu <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Crocodiles

Dear Victoria,

Re C. G. Rossetti and crocodiles:

The Penguin Edition (2001) of Rossetti's Complete Poems (Text by Crump;
Notes by Flowers) has a useful compilation of sources and references on p.
893 (includes WM Notes (1904), p. 479; CGR Letters, ed. Harrison (I: 208;
I: 209n1); Marsh's biography of CGR, pp. 164-5).

Good luck, and Happy (Chinese) New Year.

Esther T. Hu
Doctoral Candidate
Cornell English

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:39:24 -0500
From:    James Jayo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Jacob wrestling with the angel

A few weeks ago I was watching the HBO miniseries Angels in America and an
image (painting) flashed onscreen of Jacob wrestling with the angel. It
looked to me like a 19th century depiction. Possibly Pre-Raphaelite, very
intense. The composition resembled (but isn't) Gustave Dore's 1855 drawing.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? Does anyone know who painted it or
where it is?

Any and all leads appreciated!

Thanks,
James Jayo
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:20:59 -0600
From:    Martin A Danahay <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Query: German Philology in British/U.S. Higher Education?

Would it be accurate to claim that:

1) German philology had a greater influence in higher education in the U.S.
between 1850 and 1900 than in Britain?

2) That it would be seen as more "scientific" and "manly" than a "belles
lettres" and implicitly feminized approach to literature?

Any thoughts?

Martin Danahay
U of Texas at Arlington
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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:46:02 -0600
From:    Melanie R Ulrich <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: fellowships & grants

Hello VICTORIA--

I am a doctoral student about to run out of funding, and I'm hoping the list
might be able to suggest either specific fellowships/grants or else good
lists of f/gs that I might consult.  I've done some google searching,
checked VICTORIA's archives, and also looked at the Directory of Financial
Aids for Women.

Other suggestions?

Thanks--

Melanie Ulrich
U. Texas Austin
Assistant Instructor

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:02:27 EST
From:    Frank Murray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Social Investigatons

Dear Listmembers,

Could anyone help identify any articles/contributions that the following
authors [may] have submitted to periodicals or journals.
J. Ewing Ritchie; Thomas Archer; James Greenwood.

Thanks in anticipation./

Frank Murray
Research Student
University of Huddersfield
UK

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:00:00 -0500
From:    Herbert Tucker <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Query: German Philology in British/U.S. Higher Education?

At 12:20 PM 1/22/04 -0600, you wrote:
> Would it be accurate to claim that:
>
> 1) German philology had a greater influence in higher education in the
> U.S. between 1850 and 1900 than in Britain?

  I don't think one can just claim it, but one might be able to prove
it.  Max Mueller alone kept the German philological tradition on the
British plate, and tongue, well into the 2nd half of the century.  You
might look at Mark Pattison's *Oxford Studies* or at the new  ( & we think
authoritative) Virginia edition of *Essays and Reviews* ed Whitla and Shea.


> 2) That it would be seen as more "scientific" and "manly" than a "belles
> lettres" and implicitly feminized approach to literature?

Ach, ja, gewiss.


> Any thoughts?
>
> Martin Danahay
> U of Texas at Arlington
> [log in to unmask]

Herbert F. Tucker
Director of Graduate Studies
Department of English
219 Bryan Hall
University of Virginia 22904-4121
[log in to unmask]
434 / 924-6677
FAX:  434 / 924-1478

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:44:39 -0500
From:    "Eileen M. Curran" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Social Investigatons

Frank--

  Have you consulted the Wellesley Index to Victorian Periodicals?  If not,
go to vol. 5, the index volume, first.

J. Ewing Ritchie and Thomas Archer's widow both applied to the Royal
Literary Fund for assistance.  Their applications should identify some of
their contributions.

Eileen

[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:15:11 -0600
From:    "Doris H. Meriwether" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Social Investigation

Have you tried the Athaeneum Index of Reviews and Reviewers, 1830-1870?
When I searched for Thomas Archer, I got several responses.

Doris Meriwether
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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:14:59 -0600
From:    Peter Garrett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Victorian Publishing Question

This query comes from a colleague in 18th-c. studies.  Replies can be sent
to me or directly to [log in to unmask]

Can any of you shed light on a 1888 imprint, "Bohn's Standard Library"?
The publisher is George Bell & Sons in Covent Garden, and I (pardon the
pun) the publisher's name rings a bell.  I probably have encountered Bell
& Sons as a publisher of seventeenth and eighteenth-century literary
texts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

___________________________________________________________________________
____ Peter Garrett                                   (217) 244-5455
Department of English                           (217) 333-2391
Unit for Criticism and Interpretive Theory      (217) 333-4321 FAX
University of Illinois                          [log in to unmask]
608 S. Wright St.
Urbana, IL 61801

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:54:41 -0800
From:    Laurie Kristinat <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: fellowships & grants

Melanie,

Here are a few general resources that might be helpful to you and anyone
else on the list who might find themselves in search of grant money.

http://www.ed.gov/news/fedregister/announce/index.html - The Federal
Register.  This lists all federal funding educational opportunities as
they are issued.  There is a search capability too, so searching out
fellowships is easy.

http://gtionline.fdncenter.org - This is affiliated with the Foundation
Center, which is a comprehensive resource for corporate, private, and
foundation-related information.  There is a subscription fee of
$9.95/mo., but if you feel like making the modest investment, there's
lots of information on fellowships here.

http://guidestar.org - Guidestar.org.  If you don't feel like paying the
Foundation Center, much of the same information can probably be gotten
here.  Guidestar is very similar to the Foundation Center and covers the
same ground, but they are probably even more comprehensive.  The
downside is that there's a lot more work for you to do to get the
information.  There's a search capability here, so you can type in
"fellowships" and get a nice, long list.  You have to register if you
want anything more than basic info, but it's free.

Hope this is helpful to you.

Laurie

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:04:52 -0500
From:    Patrick Scott <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Victorian Publishing Question

I would suggest using the vol of the Dictionary of Literary Biography on
19th c British publishers (George Bell and Sons have an entry in DLB vol
106)..

Patrick Scott
Director of Special Collections,
Thomas Cooper Library,
& Professor of English,
University of South Carolina,
Columbia, SC 29208, USA.
Tel: 803-777-1275
Fax: 803-777-4661, attn Dr Scott
E-mail: [log in to unmask]

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:40:14 EST
From:    Frank Murray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Jacob wrestling with the angel

This painting is one produced by Paul Gauguin (1883) often referred to as
Jaocb Wrestling with the ArchangeL.  You can find details about it on
Google if you type  - gauguin jacob angel.

Best wishes

Frank Murray
[log in to unmask]

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Date:    Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:13:04 -0500
From:    David Latane <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: crocodiles

As an addendum to Robert Morrison's Romantic crocs, I'll add Coleridge,
who read about them in Bartram's Travels--details will be found by going
to Lowe's Road to Xanadu and looking in the index under "alligator," and
Blake who (I do hope memory is serving me well) commercially engraved a
crocodile. And let's not forget Prinny's "Crocodile Couch" at the
Brighton Pavilion.

David Latané

Victorian Institute: http://www.people.vcu.edu/~dlatane/VI.html

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