In message <[log in to unmask]>, "Cashmore,
Stuart" <[log in to unmask]> writes
>Roland Perry wrote "but I don't expect for one minute that the Photo-DL will
>be the only evidence required for an ID card to be issued".
>This, surely, is one of the central planks of the problem that identity
>cards will create rather than solve? At best an identity card can only ever
>prove AN identity as opposed to THE identity of the holder. In order to have
>an identity card issued I would imagine an applicant is going to have to
>produce "proofs" of identity - (photo?) driving licence and/or passport
>and/or other documents.
The passport office has coped with this, and I'm not sure anyone has
suggested that the ID card needs to be more authoritative than a
passport. Of course, if it *is* to be an entitlement card, then it makes
sense to check things like lifetime NI contributions against the claimed
identity. This and other similar checks might help ensure there's only
one person "using" each identity.
> Forged documents of this type are relatively easy to
>obtain, so anybody with nefarious intent can quite easily obtain an identity
>card in any identity they want and thereafter they will be "official".
Many benefit frauds involve people having multiple (sometimes extremely
multiple) identities. Perhaps the ID card system will be able to de-dupe
a few of these (for example, by correlating a biometric).
>I also wonder about people like my next door neighbour, a lovely lady of 92.
>She doesn't drive and so has no driving licence - photo or otherwise. She
>has never been out of the country and so has no passport. The chances of her
>still having her original birth certificate are slim. So how does she prove
>her identity in order to get a card to prove her identity? ;-)
Indeed, I was going to mention this rump of people with good reasons for
no documents. This lady will presumably have a GP practice that knows
her, though. Possibly also a pension book. There will need to be a team
of specialists who sort out this kind of case. I'd even suggest having a
mk2 card for people above (say) 70 to reduce the bureaucracy.
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