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Re: Death List from Registrars office

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Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>

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Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:59:40 -0000

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Looking at their site, I don't believe I do.  The files discussed in that
presentation were (90% sure) were very official files, and the Bereavement
Register seems voluntary.

I wish I could remember the organisations in the presentation!  I could ask
them.

I have a sneaking feeling that one of them is a subscriber to this list.  If
so, please speak up!

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Yuill, Allan
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Death List from Registrars office

Are you thinking of the Bereavement Register?

http://www.the-bereavement-register.org.uk/uk/


Allan

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Trent [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 23 January 2004 10:30
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Death List from Registrars office


There's still something in the back of my mind re deaths.  I had a
presentation from (hazy recollection) a mail consolidator and a direct mail
provider to domestic end users about a year ago.  I forget any of the
details, but one or the other of them had legitimate access to the deaths
files in order to perform bulk suppression for direct mail.

It's not an area I get involved in much (I specialise in B2B marketing
usually), but this nagging "thing" says that the register is available in
additional circumstances to the ones you mention below.

I'm really happy to be wrong here. ("Really? I hear you cry!).

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Watson, Patrick
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:21 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Death List from Registrars office

The provision of this list of deceased persons for secondary use is not a
DPA issue.  The Registrar General will not disclose this data unless it is a
requirement set out in statute.  There is a statutory requirement to supply
it for Council Tax purposes.  The Local Government Finance Act is the
barrier to further disclosure and other secondary use. Patrick Watson

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Trent [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 22 January 2004 10:07
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Death List from Registrars office


The registrar is not the only one with legitimate access to this list.
Decent list vendors (!) for domestic end user lists also clean against the
death list.

Since the people on it are "certified non living" it is not covered by the
DPA.  Wise use (subject to any licence) may be made of this list.


Tim Trent - Consultant
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jane Corrin
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:33 AM
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Subject: [data-protection] Death List from Registrars office

Good Morning,
Each week a "Death List" is produced by the Registrar of Births, Marriages
and Deaths and sent to Council Tax so they can amend their records.  It is
supplied under Statute and this is fine, However......Merseyside Pensions
Fund ( run by Wirral Council ) would like copies of this list so they too
can doublecheck their records. Registrar has said they only have statute to
supply to Ctax but Pensions can ask Ctax to disclose if they wish.  Yes, I
know these people are Dead but........does anyone see a potential problem if
I give the go ahead to Ctax to disclose the list to Pensions?  I'm sure this
is an easy one, I'm thinking common sense but that hasn't always served me
well in the past!! Kind Regards Jane Corrin

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