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Subject:

Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc

From:

Ian Welton <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Ian Welton <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:02:12 +0100

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Is it not a follow on from the sentence above that one:-

"LCD proposes the introduction of a new Court Order, a Data Disclosure
Order"

So a court order which attaches fines to earnings would be legitimate.

It would be interesting to know what date approval was granted, and how many
attachments to earnings had been made up until that date.

If the above is correct the control factor would appear to be the court.  I
suppose they have some guidance limiting when that power may be utilised.

Ian W

> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection 
> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
> Smith, Tony
> Sent: 12 October 2004 09:02
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
> 
> 
> Where did this come from?
> 
> For example:
> 
> To improve the collection of civil debt where other legal steps to
> recover debt have failed. LCD to collect information including NINO
> 
> Does this mean that I can say to the LCD, for example, "Fred 
> Bloggs owes me money, will you give me his NINO"?
> 
> That sounds frightening, if true.
> 
> Tony
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of DREW Nic
> Sent: 11 October 2004 15:47
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
> 
> 
> AUTHORISED USERS of NATIONAL INSURANCE NUMBERS
> 
>  
> 
> Authorised User
> 
> Proposed/Actual Use
> 
> Reasons and Circumstances
> 
> Approval granted pending suitable legal gateway
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Home Office
> 
> Sex Offenders database
> 
> To facilitate the identification & tracing of offenders who seek to
> evade registration requirements
> 
> Department of Health
> 
> Protection of Children Act list
> 
> To prevent individuals previously convicted or regarded as high risk
> from work in the healthcare field
> 
> Department for Education & Skills
> 
> List 99 database
> 
> To prevent individuals previously convicted or regarded as high risk
> from work in the education field
> 
> Lord Chancellors Department (LCD)
> 
> LCD proposes the introduction of a new Court Order, a Data Disclosure
> Order
> 
> To improve the collection of civil debt where other legal steps to
> recover debt have failed. LCD to collect information including NINO
> 
> Approval Granted
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Criminal Records Bureau
> 
> Pre-recruitment checks - use of NINO with customer consent - including
> both employers and voluntary groups
> 
> Used for checking purposes against DWP records. Provides safer
> recruitment procedures for employers and voluntary groups in 
> particular
> for those with responsibilities for the welfare of children & 
> vulnerable
> adults
> 
> UK Passport Agency
> 
> For use in passport application checks - with customer consent
> 
> To facilitate identity checks against DWP records as part of 
> more secure
> passport issue arrangements
> 
> Northern Ireland Electoral Office
> 
> Use of NINO included within the Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Act
> 2002
> 
> For use in connection with elections in Northern Ireland
> 
> Disability Living Allowance & Schlumberger-Sema
> 
> Use of NINO format identifier
> 
> Facilitates the tracking of medical assessments relating to 
> DWP benefit
> customers
> 
> HM Customs & Excise
> 
> Approved for use on VAT trader applications
> 
> To assist in the verification of identity of persons applying for VAT
> trader status
> 
> Prescription Pricing Authority. Dental Practice Board. NHS Optical
> Checks. NHS Counter -fraud
> 
> Used to identify individuals seeking to evade payment of prescription
> charges etc.
> 
> Facilitates the tracing of those seeking to evade payment of 
> charges by
> claiming to be in receipt of "passport" benefits
> 
> Yorkshire & Humberside Government Office
> 
> Used for allocation of European Training Grant purposes
> 
> Facilitated the allocation of funds to individuals
> 
> Cabinet Office
> 
> Use of NINO for Civil Service staffing purposes
> 
> Use of NINO for Civil Service staffing purposes
> 
> BBC TV Licences
> 
> Supported by legislation and with customer consent, provides for the
> provision of free TV Licences to the over 75 age range
> 
> Use of NINO used to establish entitlement provision to free TV Licence
> 
>  
> 
> Nic
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roland Perry [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: 11 October 2004 15:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
> 
>  
> 
> In message
> 
> <[log in to unmask]
> s.com>, at
> 
> 11:49:06 on Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Pounder Chris <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> writes
> 
>  
> 
> >PQ 185952 NI No
> 
>  
> 
>         "To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer what uses of the
> 
>         national insurance number other than those connected 
> with tax or
> 
>         benefits are authorised
> 
>  
> 
> The which the answer is "Didn't we tell you once already?" and "Don't
> 
> know, but we'll find the answer eventually and hide it away".
> 
>  
> 
>         "I refer to the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions
> 
>         response of 14 April 2003 to your previous question. Additions
> 
>         to the list of authorised users of the national 
> insurance number
> 
>         for non-tax or benefit purposes since that date will be placed
> 
>         in the Library.
> 
>  
> 
> The "previous answer" being equally opaque:
> 
>  
> 
>         "The National Insurance number is an internal system index
> 
>         number used by Inland Revenue to record and reconcile tax and
> 
>         National Insurance, and by the Department of Work and Pensions
> 
>         to pay social security benefits and pensions. 
> National Insurance
> 
>         number policy is the joint responsibility of DWP and Inland
> 
>         Revenue.
> 
>  
> 
>         "Any exchange of information is governed by the terms of the
> 
>         1998 Data Protection Act. Under certain, limited, 
> circumstances,
> 
>         the national insurance number can be used for other
> 
>         cross-government, public interest purposes. A full list of
> 
>         authorised users of the National Insurance Number for 
> non-tax or
> 
>         benefit purposes will be placed in the Library.
> 
>  
> 
> <sigh> So we need a friendly MP to go and look it up in the Library...
> 
> --
> 
> Roland Perry

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