I so HATE peer pressure. I loathe and despise the argument of "those with
nothing to hide will get one". "Are you now or have you ever been a
communist/terrorist/sexual deviant (note the pejorative word "deviant"
here)?"
"Hey boy, No ID card, I don't let you buy that can of coke"
This all seems very Redneck Hicksville USA to me. And this is meant to be
the UK!
What we have is knee jerk politics. Now, let me see. The last bunch of
alleged terrorists were British Citizens. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Would they have
had an ID card? Well, yes. They were not suspicious, well not for ages.
A fun concept is to steal or fake ID Cards and snatch handbags, leaving the
fake card on the ground where the bag is dumped!
-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cashmore, Stuart
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:56 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Compulsory ID cards
Roland Perry wrote "but I don't expect for one minute that the Photo-DL will
be the only evidence required for an ID card to be issued".
This, surely, is one of the central planks of the problem that identity
cards will create rather than solve? At best an identity card can only ever
prove AN identity as opposed to THE identity of the holder. In order to have
an identity card issued I would imagine an applicant is going to have to
produce "proofs" of identity - (photo?) driving licence and/or passport
and/or other documents. Forged documents of this type are relatively easy to
obtain, so anybody with nefarious intent can quite easily obtain an identity
card in any identity they want and thereafter they will be "official".
I also wonder about people like my next door neighbour, a lovely lady of 92.
She doesn't drive and so has no driving licence - photo or otherwise. She
has never been out of the country and so has no passport. The chances of her
still having her original birth certificate are slim. So how does she prove
her identity in order to get a card to prove her identity? ;-)
Stuart
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
available to the world wide web community at large at
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
If you wish to leave this list please send the command
leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at : -
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
(all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
available to the world wide web community at large at
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
If you wish to leave this list please send the command
leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at : -
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
(all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|