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Subject:

Re: Fingers caught in the till.....

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Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>

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Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:21:46 +0100

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Many years ago I worked in the then Police National Computer Unit.  From
time to time people asked the operators whose job it was to operate the
rather large and warm mainframe machines for favours in locating people who
had, for example, dinged their cars in car parks.

"Naturally the operators all refused".  And there goes Lord Lucan riding
Shergar.

Of course this has all changed nowadays.  My period there observing things
was the original Burroughs B6700 machines and Burroughs Extended Algol with
a hand crafted database!

We did crash it once, though.  Well I did.  I sat on a teletype!  The mark
one buttock test killed the test (and hot standby) machine!  We decided then
that police officers' buttocks might also do the same thing.  This delayed a
large application until buttocks were able to be handled!

-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim Ford
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:12 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingers caught in the till.....

<Considers joining everyone else pointing and saying "Ummmm", but really
can't!>

-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Antoinette Carter
Sent: 09 July 2004 15:21
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingers caught in the till.....

I have to agree with Laurence.  I'm sure we've all "lapsed" to some degree
on this one.  (I can't be the only one, or am I?)  



-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Laurence Bebbington
Sent: 09 July 2004 15:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingers caught in the till.....

Not "punitive enough!"  

While not wishing to extrapolate too much from merely a newspaper report
there is no suggestion that any real or actual damage was done to the
individuals because "there was no suggestion she passed on the information
to anyone."

Had she further diclosed the data or subsequently dealt with it improperly
no doubt the magistrates would have imposed a higher penalty and been
subject to appropriate further charges.  Had she done anything which caused
damage or distress to those whose records she had unlawfully accessed then
they would be able to use the Act to seek redress in the civil courts.

The fines and costs seem reasonable enough for what she has done; she has
been publicly shamed in the press and local community; she is now subject to
disciplinary proceedings and may well lose her job with all of the possible
implications.

I would have thought she's well and truly learned her lesson for some
moments of "foolishness and boredom."

Laurence

Laurence W. Bebbington
Law Librarian
Information Services
The University of Nottingham
Nottingham
NG7 2RD


>>> Jo Archer <[log in to unmask]> 09/07/04 13:57:45 >>>
In my opinion, this wasn't punitive enough! This was SENSITIVE personal
information. This woman was able to violate the privacy of people she knew,
who presumeably she'll meet in the street - not strangers. I don't think
100 adequately reflects the damage done. At the very least I hope she has
lost her friends.

Jo

----- Original Message -----
From: Carter, Antoinette (CCM) <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:29 AM
Subject: [data-protection] Fingers caught in the till.....


Apparently, a computer operator from Gwent was caught with her fingers in
the Police National Computer, checking on her "pals" - for details refer to
this link:

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/page.cfm?objectid=1439

7197&method=full&siteid=50082

Antoinette Carter
Data Protection Officer
Tel: 0207 389 4970


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