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Subject:

[CSL]: NetFuture -- Message from Kevin Kelly

From:

J Armitage <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Interdisciplinary academic study of Cyber Society <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 3 May 2004 08:16:20 +0100

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From: Steve Talbott
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 29/04/2004 21:28
Subject: NetFuture -- Message from Kevin Kelly

                                                        April 29, 2004

                     QUARTERLY ADMINISTRATIVE NOTICE

                       A Message from Kevin Kelly

Many of you know something about Kevin Kelly's engaging presence from
his
participation in past issues of NetFuture.  As I was considering the
futility of trying to capture the flavor of his many and varied -- and
always highly readable -- productions, it struck me that he's just about
the best person I know at saying something with very few words.  So why
not draw on his own words from the .signature block he sends out with
all
his emails? --

   Official Website: http://www.kk.org
   Current Work: WHAT TECHNOLOGY WANTS, in progress
   Former Passion: Executive Editor, WIRED magazine
   http://www.wiredmag.com
   Daily Obsession: COOL TOOLS: http://www.kk.org/cooltools/
   Coolest Project: Long Bets, now taking bets:
http://www.longbets.org.
   Classic Book: OUT OF CONTROL: http://www.kk.org/outofcontrol/
   Still Valid: NEW RULES FOR THE NEW ECONOMY, in 9 languages, free text
   First Job: WHOLE EARTH CATALOG as Editor
http://www.wholeearthmag.com
   Newest Book: ASIA GRACE, all images, no words:
http://www.asiagrace.com
   Forever Project: All Species Inventory  http://www.all-species.org

That signature block threatens to get longer and longer as Kevin takes
off
in pursuit of new and previously unsuspected interests.  Click on any
one
of those links, and you'll be in for quite a ride.  But there is one
thing
I can say about all my interactions with Kevin:  however much I have
found
myself disagreeing with him, I have always had the strong impression
that
he speaks with his conscience and his passions deeply engaged --
something
not so common today.  When we converse via email, I never have the
slightest doubt that his whole aim is for a true understanding -- again
not so common.

And, doggone it, I sure as heck envy him his [log in to unmask], which must be
just
about the shortest and most easily memorized email address in the entire
digital landscape.

Here is Kevin speaking for himself:

   I think technology is a spiritual force of unalloyed good in the
   universe, so I find myself in disagreement with Steve Talbott more
   times than I would like.  There is much we agree about, however.
Chief
   is the importance of challenging one's own complicity in the scheme
of
   things, and armed with this kind of personal honesty Steve has gone
   further on the quest to decipher technology than anyone I know.

   His journey is chronicled in his innovative email publication,
   NetFuture -- another measure of his will to understand technology via
   intimacy rather than ignorance. What you won't find in it are the
   standard stereotypes about the technological steamroller.  What you
   will find are critical concerns about science and technology that you
   had never thought of, deep connections not revealed in consumer
   magazines, and an unconventional perspective that is intent not on
   eliminating technology, but re-inventing it.

   At least that is what I've taken away so far.  I read each issue of
   NetFuture very carefully to see where Steve's quest has taken him
next.
   This avid study on my part put me in a quandary this week when Steve
   asked me to write an endorsement for NetFuture.  While I have read it
   for years, even engaged in a public conversation published in several
   issues, I have never supported the zine where it counted -- in the
   PayPal account.  My own meager principles prevent me from soliciting
   support from others for something I am not supporting myself.  Like
   many of you, I REALLY did mean to click over to that PayPal button,
but
   you know how it is.... I just never got there.

   This morning I found it very easy to do. That little button is behind
   this link:

      https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=stevet%40oreilly.com

   I'm supporting NetFuture because I read it more than I read most of
the
   other publications I pay for, and because I would like Steve to
   continue to challenge my own conceptions and assumptions about this
   most potent force now at large in our society.  Even if I don't end
up
   in harmony with Steve, I've long ago figured out that I get the most
   out of this satisfyingly personal report when I don't agree with it.

   It's a great deal.  An intelligent, concise periodical, pushed to
your
   mailbox that stares down the machine without blinking, without
rancor,
   and without cliches.

   I'll buy that.

   -- kk

For previous messages by NetFuture supporters:

*   Dorothy Denning (http://www.netfuture.org/support_1.html)

*   Howard Rheingold (http://www.netfuture.org/support_2.html)

                            *   *   *   *   *

Those of you who wish to go directly to The Nature Institute's PayPal
account can use this url:

   https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=stevet%40oreilly.com

However, it would be a good idea to check the special offers described
below.  If you wish to take advantage of any of them, indicate which
ones
when filling out the information for PayPal.

The standard contribution form follows.  You will also find it on the
web
at http://www.netfuture.org/support.html.

 =======================================================================
==
Here are the standard options, although you are not limited to these.
(Foreign subscribers, please see the note at end.)

All subscriptions are viewed as being for one year and are
tax-deductible
donations (U.S. taxes).  And please note:  if your company is willing to
match employee charitable contributions, then this is an easy way to
increase your support of NetFuture.

______   Standard subscription ($20).  Upon request (see below), we will
         also send you The Nature Institute's twice-yearly newsletter.

______   Heroic subscription ($50).  Upon request (see below), we will
         also send you a copy of *The Future Does Not Compute:
         Transcending the Machines in Our Midst*, by Stephen L. Talbott
         (retail value: $22.95), as well as the twice-yearly newsletter
         of The Nature Institute.

______   Grandiose subscription ($100).  This entitles you to the
         additional items listed above, if you request them.

______   Mother of All Subscriptions ($500).  This entitles you to the
         additional items listed above, if you request them.

______   Other $ _________.  (*Any* amount will be appreciated.)

______   Yes, I would also like to receive the twice-yearly Newsletter
of
         The Nature Institute.  Please send it to the address below.

______   Yes, I have contributed at least $50 and would like to receive
         *The Future Does Not Compute*.  Please send it to the address
         below.

Payment:

We have set up an account for NetFuture (The Nature Institute) at
PayPal.com.  To use it, go to this url:

     https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=stevet%40oreilly.com

If you do this, be sure to note with your payment whether you are
requesting either of the free offers (newsletter or book) listed above.
You can enter this information, along with anything else you want to
say,
in the box labeled "Payment For".  You will be asked by PayPal to log in
and supply a password if you are not already a PayPal user.

All others should fill out the following:

______ Check or money order is enclosed

______ Charge my:  ____ Visa  ____ MasterCard  ____ American Express
       (NOTE:  Do not send your card number through email.)

       Card number:     ____________________________________________

       Expiration date: ____________________________________________

       Signature:  _________________________________________________

Your mailing address:

Name
____________________________________________________________________

Street or Box
___________________________________________________________

City, State
_____________________________________________________________

Country and postal code
_________________________________________________

Email address (optional)
________________________________________________

Make checks and money orders payable to The Nature Institute.  Fax this
form (with your credit card number) to 518-672-4270.  Or mail it with
your
payment to:

   The Nature Institute
   Attn:  NetFuture
   20 May Hill Road
   Ghent, New York 12075
   U.S.A.

Note to foreign subscribers:  You can send a check or money order in
U.S.
dollars, or use the credit card option (specifying the amount in
dollars)
-- all by using the form above.  Alternatively, to save bother with
currency conversion, you can wire your contribution to this account in
Germany:

   Gemeinnuetzige Treuhandstelle e.V.
   Account Nr. 13 022 710
   GLS Gemeinschaftsbank eG, Bochum
   Routing Number (BLZ): 430 609 67
   Purpose:  The Nature Institute Nr. 41 089

If you do take advantage of this German account, you should still fill
out
the form above and mail it as directed, or email it to
[log in to unmask]
Also, be sure to provide your address to the bank so that they can
acknowledge receipt of your contribution.

And finally:  THANK YOU!

Steve
------------------------------
Steve Talbott ([log in to unmask]), NetFuture editor
On the web:  http://www.netfuture.org/

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