Hmm, yes very quiet for a complex issue.
Ok - can I try a relatively complex one (;-)) which incorporates a
range of the issues:
A teaching video is made of a surgical procedure which cannot but
identify the patient. There are a number of individuals involved some
of whom have rights issues, some consent:
The patient
The patient's next of kin
The lead consultant surgeon
Other members of the theatre staff
The specific Hospital Department in which the procedure took place
The Hospital Trust (or other global body) in which the procedure took place
The University or faculty for whose students the video was made
For any one or more than one of these entities to establish rights
would seem to place the others in positions requiring varying degrees
of consent. For instance, for the Hospital and University to co-own
the rights to the video this would require consent from most if not
all of the individuals concerned. Some of these consents may be be
covered within a contract of employment. Non-contracted people, and
in particular the patient, will almost certainly will have no rights
over the video but will have degrees of deciding control via consent
of how and where the video is used (and indeed if it is made at all).
Is consent therefore a prior condition in a multifactorial situation,
required to allow rights to be assigned?
best regards
Rachel Ellaway
eLearning Manager
MVM Learning Technology Section
The University of Edinburgh
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>Hello
>
>I don't think anything has been submitted about consent yet, and it
>seems a very valid requirement to me. To turn it into a requirement,
>there's no need to anticipate every possible situation in which consent
>would play a role. Just a simple narrative of a typical situation where
>consent expression is required would be very good.
>
>More generally, to further help the requirements gathering exercise, the
>DREL working group has also made a questionaire type template- which is
>attached. It can be used separately from the spreadsheet.
>
>For those who'd rather discuss DREL requirements, there will be a
>teleconference during the IEEE DREL working group meeting in Seattle on
>Thursday October 2nd. Details are:
>
>Time: 2-4pm PDT (Seattle Time)
>Int'l phone no.: (001)-712-237-6102
>Passcode: 259105
>
>All the best,
>
>Wilbert
>
>Rachel Ellaway wrote:
>
>> Wilbert et al (apologies for cross-posting)
>>
>> I have not entered a statement in the spreadsheet as requested as I
>> would rather this was discussed with the relevant communities first.
>> What seems to be missing (and I am afraid that the density of
>> language makes a little unclear) are references to issues of subject
>> consent.
>>
>> This is particularly an issue in domains where materials may contain
>> images of, or other kinds of references to, individuals from whom
>> informed and fairly precise consent is required to use such
>> materials. Examples include clinical photographs or even scans,
>> patient cases, diagnostic video and so on. Although I am speaking
>> mostly from a medical perspective I would expect there to be similar
>> issues for education, social work and so on. The DREL s/s contains
>> 'permissions' references but no direct reference to 'consent'.
>>
>> In that such expressions of the range and forms of consent given at
>> the point of origination are essential in a DREL, how should these
>> best be structured and represented?
>>
>> best
>>
>> Rachel Ellaway
>> eLearning Manager
>> MVM Learning Technology Section
>> The University of Edinburgh
>>
>> ===================================================================
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> As you may know, the IEEE Learning Technology Sub-Committee (LTSC) has
>>> been working on the standardisation of a Digital Rights Expression
>>> Language (DREL) for six months or so.
>>>
>>> At this stage, it is most important to have as complete a set of
>>> e-learning specific requirements on a DREL. Though requirements will
>>> continue to be collected for ongoing work on the future IEEE DREL, the
>>> first tranche will close by October 3d, and will form the basis of the
>>> standard.
>>>
>>> At the moment, more requirements are still needed from as diverse a set
>>> of e-learning stakeholders as possible.
>>>
>>> To facilitate the requirements gathering process, the IEEE DREL working
>>> group has made a spreadsheet
>>> <http://ltsc.ieee.org/wg4/DREL_Requirements_draft3.xls> with all the
>>> requirements that have been gathered so far.
>>>
>>> What the spreadsheet indicates is
>>> - the person or organisation who submitted the requirement
>>> - the domain category of the requirement (HE, FE, Secondary, training,
>>> etc. or 'General', if it's across the board)
>>> - 'Education/Training Requirement'; a brief use-case-like outline of the
>>> requirement from an educational point of view
>>> - 'REL Requirement'; a translation of the Education/Training Requirement
>>> from the point of view of the DREL itself
>>>
>>> 'Technical suggestions' and 'Disposition' are for the benefit of the
>>> requirement evaluators. The colour bands indicate the domain category.
>>>
>>> To submit a requirement, all you need to do is check whether the
>>> requirement has been included in the spreadsheet already. If it hasn't,
>>> just add a row to the spreadsheet, and fill in the 'SOURCE' 'DOMAIN' and
>>> 'Education/Training Requirement' columns in a red font. The whole
>>> spreadsheet can then be sent to either me or the working group's editor,
>>> Jon Mason ([log in to unmask]), and it'll be merged into the
>>> master spreadsheet that will be maintained on the LTSC website.
>>>
>>> Please bear in mind that the group is focussed on gathering requirements
>>> on a digital requirements language, as opposed to a complete digital
>>> rights management (DRM) system. The main difference is that a DREL just
>>> expresses exactly what rights an author or other rightsholder wishes to
>>> grant to users. It doesn't get involved in enforcing these rights.
>>>
>>> You can read more about the IEEE DREL work on
>>> <http://cetis.ac.uk/content/20030710051134>.
>>>
>>> Any submissions would be greatly appreciated, but, more importanty, it
>>> will help ensure that the digital content of the future can express the
>>> rights you need it to express as an author, a consumer or custodian.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wilbert Kraan
>>> Web Journalist
>>> Centre For Educational Technology Interoperability Standards (CETIS)
>>> +44 (0)1248 383645
>>> web: http://www.cetis.ac.uk newsfeed: http://www.cetis.ac.uk/news.xml
>
>--
>Wilbert Kraan
>Web Journalist
>Centre For Educational Technology Interoperability Standards (CETIS)
>+44 (0)1248 383645
>web: http://www.cetis.ac.uk newsfeed: http://www.cetis.ac.uk/news.xml
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