italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
I saw a recent discussion that there is a proposal to make the local
universities in charge of their own hiring instead of having a national
system ("Italians" in the Corriere had several letters on the subject).
How is that iniziativa going?
Leslie
Ferzoco, G.P. wrote:
> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>
> Dear Cinzia,
>
> Thank you for sharing your knowledge of the Italian system with the list!
>
> The only thing I would add has is that in the U.K., it is perfectly possible -- and often does occur -- that one can remain at the 'Lecturer' level for many years, even one's entire career. Also, it is possible in the U.K. to be a Senior Lecturer without having the British equivalent of the American 'tenure'.
>
> Best wishes, George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cinzia Padovani [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wed 2003-04-09 01:37
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: Fw: faculty titles in Italy
>
>
>
> Hi George, in italy the academic career goes like this: ricercatore
> (lecturer in the UK; assistant prof in the USA); after 3 years "ricercatori"
> are usually confirmed (ricercatore confermato) and their position becomes
> more like that of a senior lecturer in the UK (or a third-fourth year
> assistant prof in teh US--higher salary and other priviledges). One becomes
> "associato" (reader in teh UK, associate prof in the USA) only through
> winning the national examination (concorsi), same thing to become
> "professore ordinario" (full professor int eh USA; professor in the UK). Of
> course, the main difference with the US system is that the position as
> ricercatore is already tenured (a post as ricercatore is already secure for
> life--well, unless one does something very damn to lose that priviledge).
> One could remain a ricercatore confermato for one's entire career, whereas
> that is not the case in the USA: if one fails to go through the tenure
> review process, one has to leave the job alltogether. Other difference with
> the UK/US is that in order to access the profession, one has to partecipate
> in national examinations (concorsi) which are theoretically open to all
> those who have a master's (phd is good, but not required in italian
> universities). Selection is made during those examinations, instead than
> during the shortlisting phase, as it is custom in anglo american
> universities.
>
> Cinzia Padovani
> CU Boulder, USA
>
> > italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
> >
> > Dear Grace,
> >
> > It is very difficult, if not impossible, to compare hierarchical systems
> of countries as different as the U.S. and the U.K. accurately and
> succinctly; however, in ascending order, the ranks of British full-time
> faculty titles are:
> >
> > Lecturer
> > Senior Lecturer
> > Reader
> > Professor
> >
> > I think I am correct in saying that the British equivalent of 'adjunct
> professor' would be 'part-time lecturer', but I stand to be corrected.
> >
> > I hope this is of some assistance to you.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > George
> >
> > P.S.: I have a feeling that many list members would be interested to learn
> of the hierarchy of titles in Italian universities; if anyone could provide
> this to the list, I think that many members would be grateful for this
> information.
> >
> > **
> >
> > George Ferzoco, University of Leicester
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: GRACE BULLARO [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Sun 2003-04-06 13:47
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Cc:
> > Subject: [I-S] Fw: faculty titles in uk
> >
> > italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I haven't received any responses to this query, but I will give it one
> more
> > try. If there's really no one out there who can provide the
> correspondances
> > between the American and English systems then I'd be happy to at least
> know
> > the hierarchy of the English university faculty titles.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Grace Russo Bullaro
> > City University of New York
> > Lehman College
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "GRACE BULLARO" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:10 PM
> > > Subject: faculty titles in uk
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I'm wondering whether someone who knows both the American and English
> > > > University systems well can explain to me the faculty title
> > > > terminology/hierarchy in the UK in relation to their equivalents in
> the
> > > U.S.
> > > > both on the "Adjunct" level (to use the American term) and the
> full-time
> > > > level.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Grace Russo Bullaro
>
>
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