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Re: Institutional portals and Student Unions ?

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David R Supple <[log in to unmask]>

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Institutional portal discussion list <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:33:09 -0000

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But I do agree with your thread totally - and it's all about community. Bills and reminders don't create community, and it will be the oil that keeps your Portal running if you get it right. Community drives users to build the Portal relationship, but creating inert RSS feeds is not community in my book :)

David



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Miller [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: 11 March 2003 15:53
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Institutional portals and Student Unions ?
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
> I'm aware of at least one case where it (repeatedly) takes 
> several months to persuade sabbaticals to consider the idea, 
> then several months to talk through the options. Then there's 
> an election. Then you start again. Again.
> 
> In many ways, dealing with Uniservity might well be easier, 
> despite the fact that Universities appear to be regretting 
> the 'loss' of their Unions, and actively trying to court them 
> back onto University web/portal services once more...  {sigh}.
> 
> Paul
> 
>   -- dr. paul miller --------------------------- 
> [log in to unmask] --
>      interoperability focus, ukoln         mobile: +44 (0)7710 481812
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>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Institutional portal discussion list
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David R Supple
> > Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:34
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Institutional portals and Student Unions ?
> > 
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > Engagement and bridge building aside, there are some very
> > real non-techie issues that need to be pulled apart on this 
> > one - the Guilds (probable) desire to be as commercial as 
> > they can be (some would sell their family silver it seems, 
> > and let any company advertise on their website) but more 
> > crucially is continuity. If your engagement is based upon a 
> > bridge with a sabbatical position, when the next sabb arrives 
> > and everything gets changed from blue to red (again) how is 
> > that going to effect your (by the nature of the beast) long 
> > term Portal strategy.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > David R. Supple
> > Web Strategy Manager
> > Team Leader Corporate Web Team
> > CIS Division, Information Services
> > University of Birmingham
> > 
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> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Miller [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: 11 March 2003 14:31
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Institutional portals and Student Unions ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > All,
> > > 
> > > I'm now aware of at least two UK HEIs that are grappling with
> > > issues of integrating student union content into the 
> > > institutional portal.  In both cases, the Union has a web 
> > > presence powered by Uniservity 
> > > (http://www.uniservity.co.uk/), and is keen (for various 
> > > reasons) to preserve some aspect of that independence.
> > > 
> > > However, Union-type content personalised and in the
> > > institutional portal would be quite a powerful addition to 
> > > the portal's stickiness (hands up anyone who thinks owing 
> > > ˆ3.75 to the library is more interesting than the fact that 
> > > your favourite band is playing at the Union tomorrow night).
> > > 
> > > Is anyone looking at this, or has any institution reached a
> > > stage where they're actually managing some real integration ?
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   -- dr. paul miller ---------------------------
> > > [log in to unmask] --
> > >      project manager, portal project      
> > www.fair-portal.hull.ac.uk/
> > >      interoperability focus,
> > ukoln     www.ukoln.ac.uk/interop-focus/
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