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www.ukonline.gov.uk

From:

Non Tudur <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Discussion of Welsh language technical terminology and vocabulary <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:33:01 -0000

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Er gwybodaeth - wedi cael ymateb gan olygydd y wefan uchod i 'nghwyn am
safon y Gymraeg arni (gweler isod). 

Non Tudur (nid 'Tudor'! Pam fod nhw'n meddwl mod i wedi camsillafu f'enw
tybed?!)



-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 13 February 2003 12:31
To: Non Tudur
Subject: www.ukonline.gov.uk 


Dear Mr/Ms Tudor

Thank you for your email and for bringing this matter to our attention. We
shall be taking steps to correct the inaccuracies on our website.

We apologise for any inconvenience this might have caused.

Regards
For and on behalf of the Editor of www.ukonline.gov.uk




 

                    Non Tudur

                    <Non.Tudur@eryri-n       To:
"[log in to unmask]"                  
                    pa.gov.uk>                <[log in to unmask]>

                                             cc:

                    10/02/2003 10:20         Subject:     Substandard Welsh
content on website   
 

 





Annwyl Olygydd / Dear Editor

I am a translator working in Welsh and English, and am writing to express
my extreme disappointment at the standard of Welsh on your website.á This
is not acceptable on a national site such as yours; even the reference to
'the government' itself is misspelt every time - 'gwasanaethau'r
lywodraeth' - any recognised, professional translator knows that the letter
"ll" does not mutate into "l" after the definite article, "'r" in this
case. This is just one example of many other errors that are offensive to a
Welsh-speaker; even those with no grasp of the rules of Welsh grammar.

Could you therefore ensure that you withdraw the Welsh version and send the
English text to be translated again, by a recognised translator, based in
Wales. áIf you contact Cymdeithas Cyfieithwyr Cymru (Society of Welsh
Translators), you can get a directory of the Society's members, who have
been recognised either through an examination process or as associates.
Their address is: Bryn Menai, Ffordd Caergybi, Bangor, Gwynedd LL57 2JA
Phone: 01248 371839 or visit their website at www.cyfieithwyr.cymru.org
They are also fully endorsed by the Welsh Language Board, run by the
government in Wales.

Diolch yn fawr/thank you.

Yn gywir/Yours sincerely


Non Tudur
Prif Gyfieithydd
Awdurdod Parc Cenedlaethol Eryri
Penrhyndeudraeth
Gwynedd LL48 6LF
Ff˘n: 01766 772222
E-bost: [log in to unmask]



Datganiad : CYFRINACHOL: Safbwynt yr awdur yw cynnwys y neges hon; ni cheir
yma o reidrwydd safbwynt Awdurdod Parc Cenedlaethol Eryri. Neges breifat yw
hon a fwriadwyd ar gyfer y derbynnydd(ion) a enwir uchod yn unig. Gall y
cynnwys fod yn gyfrinachol. Os ydych wedi derbyn y neges hon drwy
gamgymeriad a wnewch chi ymateb a nodi hynny ac yna dileu'r neges.
Gwaherddir unrhyw un arall ac eithrio'r derbynnydd rhag ei defnyddio, ei
chop´o, ei datgelu neu ei dosbarthu. Declaration : CONFIDENTIALITY: The
contents of this message are the views of the author, not necessarily the
views of the Snowdonia National Park Authority. This is a private message
intended for the named addressee(s) only. Its contents may be confidential.
If you have received this message in error please reply to say so and then
delete the message. Any use, copying, disclosure or distribution by other
than the addressee is forbidden.



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Datganiad : CYFRINACHOL: Safbwynt yr awdur yw cynnwys y neges hon; ni cheir
yma o reidrwydd safbwynt Awdurdod Parc Cenedlaethol Eryri. Neges breifat yw
hon a fwriadwyd ar gyfer y derbynnydd(ion) a enwir uchod yn unig. Gall y
cynnwys fod yn gyfrinachol. Os ydych wedi derbyn y neges hon drwy
gamgymeriad a wnewch chi ymateb a nodi hynny ac yna dileu'r neges.
Gwaherddir unrhyw un arall ac eithrio'r derbynnydd rhag ei defnyddio, ei
chop´o, ei datgelu neu ei dosbarthu.
Declaration : CONFIDENTIALITY: The contents of this message are the views of
the author, not necessarily the views of the Snowdonia National Park
Authority. This is a private message intended for the named addressee(s)
only. Its contents may be confidential. If you have received this message in
error please reply to say so and then delete the message. Any use, copying,
disclosure or distribution by other than the addressee is forbidden.

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