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Subject:

Re: Recording offences

From:

Jude Carroll <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>, Jude Carroll <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:44:54 -0000

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Dear colleagues,

I'm interested in this idea of different actions if the student admits
or doesn't admit the offence.  It worries me a bit as it could be seen
as undue pressure, possibly even coercion.  Could it be that a student
is tempted to admit even if he/she didn’t do anything in order to be
treated more leniently?  Or might he/she invoke the human rights laws
about being treated fairly?

I also note that Fiona's original question for this discussion thread
was "How many minor offences need to be committed before it becomes
major?" or words to that effect.  

I would prefer using other criteria to judge the cross-over point and
that's what we do here at Brookes.  We've identified four criteria to be
applied to allocating a tariff:  The most significant distinguisher here
at Brookes between minor and major offences is extent - how much is it?
- followed by level [is it the student's first year?  Third?  M level?
Etc] and then some kind of judgement as to how likely it is that the
student understands academic conventions.  Because the last point
matters a lot and seeks to get to students' intentions, we now have the
rule that all reminders, offences and conversations with students must
be recorded because one important way to judge how likely it is that the
student understands academic conventions is a note of a previous
conversation on the matter.  So we ask that all cases are recorded.



Jude Carroll
Staff Developer and Course Leader
Oxford Centre for Staff and Learning Development, Oxford Brookes
University, Gipsy Lane, Oxford OX3 0BP UK
01865 485827;  fax 01865 485937
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of L.
Payne
Sent: 17 March 2003 16:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Recording offences

My School has a policy similar to John Mottley's.  If the first offence
is
relatively minor it is dealt with by the teaching staff themselves.
If the students admit guilt this would typically this'd involve a zero
marks for that assignment for
all students involved.  Such offences
are lodged on a database.

If the students dont admit guilt, or it is a more serious first offence,
it is escalated to the
Dean,  A second offence is automatically escalated to
the Dean. The Dean will deal with less serious offences but others are
passed on to University investigatory processes.

Lisa Payne
Coventry University



On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, John Mottley wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My institution (at least my School) tends to treat an obvious first
offence
> by giving zero marks to all parties involved if they admit it
(otherwise it
> is taken to committee)and it is recorded. A second and subsequent
suspected
> offences are treated more seriously and are sent directly to
committee.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fiona Duggan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 17 March 2003 14:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Recording offences
>
>
> Dear Listmembers,
>
> A lunchtime discussion today centred on consideration of policies
relating to
> plagiarism, specifically the recording of offences. Questions that
were
> raised included the following:
>
> Do institutions record offences that are considered to be minor, and
if they
> do, is there any guidelines as to the number of minor offences that
would be
> needed to constitute a major offence? Are minor offences taken into
> consideration when later offences are being considered?
>
> Needless to say no definitive answers were produced, but it would be
> interesting to hear how other institutions deal with these issues.
>
> Regards
>
> Fiona Duggan
>
> Plagiarism Advisory Service Manager
> Information Management Research Institute
> Room 122 Lipman Building
> Northumbria University
> Newcastle upon Tyne
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