Maybe we're supposed to provide the URL with instructions to copy and
paste!
hmmm ....
When we were informed of this situation, we were looking into EHS
titles
becoming available via ScienceDirect. I translated this as being their
version of
the "access from one IP address" model. Which is simply unworkable for
many
institutions. We would like to provide access to these titles, but
some (as
mentioned below) are not available in SD.
And of those that are in SD, many have reduced coverage!
Russell
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>This is amazing.
>
>How do users get to a title without linking?
>Basically they are saying no deeplinking, which is not Elsevier's
policy I
>believe.
>And passwords used "within" the institution-is that physical,
virtual,
>etc?. I don't understand that one either.
>oh well.
>Chuck
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Russell Burke [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:28 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Mosby titles and related
>
>
>Hi,
>
>another Mosby issue ...
>
>we at KCL have been advised by Elsevier Health Sciences that we
cannot
>provide links from our webpages to the non-ScienceDirect Mosby titles
>that we subsribe to in print.
>
>As our Ejournals webpages can be 'viewed' on the internet
>(NB: passwords are restricted to authorised users), we asked them
>about the clause in the Mosby Terms and Conditions which states:
>
>"You may not use or permit the use of all or any part of the Service
>on any Local or Wide Area Network"
>
>http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?web=terms.html
&id=tc
>
>We thought that this may relate to hosting copies of their data on
>our own server (e.g. local copies of pdf files). But, if it related
>to accessing the service it seemed to conflict with the statement:
>
>"Institutional users: Please choose a user name and password to be
>shared by everyone covered by your institutional account."
>
>http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=activat
e&order
>type=S&pubcode=tc
>
>So we contacted EHS and asked them if it was OK for us to link from
>our webpages to their journals, where our users would access the site
>using our password details which were secure and not available to
>non-KCL authorised users. The reponse was:
>
>"You are allowed to give the username and password out to whomever is
>going to access the articles. Please note only 2 users are allowed
on
>the website at the same time. Access is available from any computer
>within your institution but only by username and password.
>Linking our journals in your website is prohibited."
>
>We asked for further clarification, as this seemed a strange
>approach. The answer we got was:
>
>"Thank you for your response. To answer your question about placing
>our journals link on your website. This is prohibited and not
allowed
>as a subscriber. If you do have this already placed on your website,
>you are entitled to remove it."
>
>I'm hoping I've misunderstood something really simple somewhere along
>the line, but this approach is very strange and extremely
frustrating.
>
>Has anyone else come across this?
>
>Apologies for the long message!
>
>Russell
>------------------------------------
>Russell Burke
>Electronic Resources Co-ordinator
>Information Resources & Services
>King's College London
>Tel: 0207 848 4385
>Email: [log in to unmask]
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>
>On Tue, 6 May 2003 12:00:27 -0400 "Hamaker, Chuck"
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Louise and Leslie are correct. Most of the Health Science titles
are are
>not
>> in Science Direct but only on the EHS site.
>> Chuck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lesley Crawshaw [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:33 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Mosby titles and related
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Louise is raising a very valid issue here, one which can be a
source of
>> frustration for all of us trying to find the stable form of the URL
for
>> our records, especially when the links we see have dynamic
information
>> that is not part of the stable link.
>>
>> There is no information that I can find on the EHS Periodicals site
>> about linking to their journals, not all of which are accessible on
the
>> ScienceDirect site.
>>
>> Whilst many sites do provides details of how ones provides direct
links
>> to journal titles, on other sites there is absolutely no
information
>> about linking e.g. ACM Digital Library, or if there is information
it is
>> buried deep in the web site. Good examples of the linking
information
>> being totally visible include ScienceDirect, IoP Electronic
Journals and
>> Taylor and Francis MetaPress where the information is detailed on
the
>> journal home page or via a link from the journal homepage.
>>
>> Having this information prominently displayed would make our lives
much
>> easier. Sites which don't presently provide such advice on linking
would
>> be well advised to consider adding this information to their site.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lesley
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Lesley Crawshaw, Faculty Information Consultant,
>> Learning and Information Services,
>> University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, AL10 9AB UK
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>> phone: 01707 284662 fax: 01707 284666
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louise Cole
>> Sent: 06 May 2003 13:48
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Mosby titles and related
>>
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> Has anyone managed to figure out direct URLs to the titles listed
at
>> http://www2.us.elsevierhealth.com/scripts/om.dll/serve?action=home
which
>> include Mosby, Churchill Livingstone, Saunders, and others. Some
we
>> have guessed at, and some have short and manageable URLs, but
others
>> don't (for example Journal of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery.
>>
>> Anyone found a way round this who would be willing to share?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Louise
>>
>> Louise Cole
>> Electronic Resources Team Leader
>> Health Sciences Library
>> University of Leeds
>> Leeds LS2 9JT
>>
>> e-mail [log in to unmask]
>> tel 0113 343 5502
>> fax 0113 343 4381
>
>------------------------------------
>Russell Burke
>Electronic Resources Co-ordinator
>ISS-Information Resources & Services
>King's College London
>Tel: 0207 848 4385
>Fax: 0207 848 4290
>Email: [log in to unmask]
>------------------------------------
>
Russell Burke
Electronic Resources Co-ordinator
ISS - Information Resources
King's College London
Tel: 020 7848 4385
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