Agree with Rick, the bigger the better. I was once told that depending on
the size of wheelchair, they may not be abled to wheel into the lift for
850mm size of lift. Architect should check the shopdrawing first before
installing to ensure compliance.
Best Regards,
Rahmah M Talib.
Design Manager,
Land Transport Authority,
Singapore.
Tel: 65-63961269
Fax: 65-63961143
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"Rick Townson"
John
I tend to agree with you the bigger the better as far as I am concerned
(size does matter ;-). However what stage is the project at. If at design
stage it may be possible to re-specify but extremely difficult if the
building is underway.
As for the enforcement issue, BC Officers would probably find it extremely
difficult to enforce the issue as Stannah has stated that the lift has been
seen as suitable in other locations even though it doesn't meet the
requirements of Part M. ARGH!
My opinion on this one would be that to try and fight for 1100mm x 1400mm
would be a hiding to nothing and that in the end the Architect will get
their way. You may well be better served advising of the potential
difficulties in order for future designs to be more inclusive. Bring on
the
amended Part M!
Not sure whether this helps.
Regards
Rick Townson
Senior Access Consultant
The Kepplewray Project
Broughton in Furness
Cumbria LA20 6HE
Tel : 01229 716936
Fax : 01229 716938
Web : www.kepplewray.org.uk
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Sent: 01 July 2003 11:23
Subject: Urgent Advice on Lift Provision in Flats
> Hi All,
>
> I have just received a call from one of our Building Control Officers
> regarding the installation of a passenger lift in a proposed block of
flats.
> The Architect proposes to install a lift with dimensions of 850mm x
1250mm.
>
> Approved Document Part M requires:
>
> 9.7 One way of satisfying the requirement would be to provide a passenger
> lift which (leaving out a. and b.):
>
> c. has a car whose width is at least 900mm and whose length is at
least
> 1250mm (other dimensions may satisfy the requirement where shown by test
> evidence or experience in use, or otherwise, to be suitable for an
> unaccompanied wheelchair user);
>
> Referring to the statement in parenthesis, the Architect has contacted
the
> manufacturer of the proposed passenger lift (Stannah) who have told him
that
> they have installed 850mm wide passenger lifts for other local
authorities
> and have had no complaints.
>
> Does anyone have any direct or indirect experience of these narrow lifts?
> Has anyone any thoughts on how our Building Control Officer might
consider
> the problems and advise the Architect?
>
> My personal view is that an 850mm x 1250mm passenger lift is unacceptable
> and, while Part M identifies 900mm x 1250mm, I would prefer 1000mm x
1400mm
> as the minimum if not BS 8300's 1100mm x 1400mm.
>
> Hope someone can help with this.
>
> Regards, John.
>
> John Gregory
> Access Officer
> Environmental Services Department
> Ext. 1630
> DDI. 01295 221630
>
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