Jetlagged to a faretheewell, and I brought back a late-winter Sydney flu.
John Tranter may have been the vector. So a bit under the weather. But a
great trip to with all its problems one of the luckiest countries ever.
At 02:58 PM 9/5/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi, Mark, welcome back from Oz, and I hope you're not too jetlagged.
>From: Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: 09/05/03 03:47 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: ekphrasis breaks out
> > There were also the 17th century "advice to the painter" poems, as in
>"paint this, paint that." There were a lot of them, invariably political.
>Marvell wrote a couple. Curiously, when I was involved with them in
>graduate school in the 60s the term ekphrasis never raised its head.
>Probably it didn't have nearly the currency it seems to have now.
>At 01:51 PM 9/5/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >But no, ekphrasis is not new. It seems that Pliny the Elder and
> >were ekphrastic writers. MyPenguin Dictionary of Art history states
> >learn through these writers "the content of ancient works of art that
> >been lost. Where l9th-century readers of these and other ancient readers
> >concerned themselves with whether and where the paintings they discussed
> >actuallyexisted, theorists and historians today look into ekphrasis as an
> >opportunity to
> >find layered meanings, for both the original and contemporary readers."