Well said Robert!
Anne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Dunn"
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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: BCG Vaccinations: dissent?
> Dear All
>
> To add fuel to this particular fire, I cannot see for the life of me why
any
> nurse should refuse to give an intradermal injection provided they have
been
> given appropriate training and have been deemed competent in the
technique.
> When I trained as a 'proper' nurse (State Registered Nurse) 30 years ago,
> Intradermal, Subcuaneous and Intramuscular injection technique was not
> optional, it was a requirement of completion of the training, and was in
> fact taught within the first 6 weeks of our nursing career in preliminary
> training school. Refusal to carry out any of them would have led to
> incomplete competancy and failure of the course. Has modern nurse
training
> gone so far into the realms of social sciences and academia that a basic
> skill such as intradermal injection technique is no longer required? Any
> person (not just a nurse or physician) is able legally to give any
> injection, provided the person receiving it is aware of the status of that
> individual, and that the individual has received appropriate training.....
> it is not rocket science afterall..!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fields Shirley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: BCG Vaccinations: dissent?
>
>
> I certainly wouldn't mind if any of the nurses declined to give,
personally
> I don't like intra dermal injections and have therefore always refused.
>
> Shirley Fields
> OH Manager Burton NHS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diane romano woodward [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 02 December 2003 15:02
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: BCG Vaccinations: dissent?
>
>
> All seem to be very positive about nurses doing this.
> Is this considered to be an extended role that one can chose not to do? I
> remember opting out when working in the NHS some years ago as (I think) it
> is possible to cause some disruption to the arm if they are actually
immune.
> On that basis I felt it was better to let OHP take responsibility, (they
get
> paid more..)
>
> For those of you in the NHS would you frown upon employing a nurse who
> declined to do them, as long as they could do heaf tests, Hep Bs etc?
>
> Best wishes,
> Diane
> (independent practitioner)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fields Shirley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: BCG Vaccinations
>
>
> Hi Chris (remember me)
>
> At Burton one of our nurses is currently undergoing training from the
chest
> clinic nurse to do BCG's. There is no reason why nurses cannot do this
> procedure with adequate training.
>
> Say hi to Sally
>
> Shirley Fields
> OH Manager
> Burton NHS Trust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baldwin Chris (RFF) Occupational Health Nurse Advisor
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 02 December 2003 10:01
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: BCG Vaccinations
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
> a question particularly for NHS colleagues. Do NHS Occupational Health
> colleagues allow the vaccination to be nurse or doctor administered? your
> comments and thoughts on this are appreciated.
>
> chris Baldwin
>
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