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> * not entirely dead and gone <#S1> (3)
> * Please remove me from the list <#S2>
> * Dead and gone? <#S3>
> 1. not entirely dead and gone
>> * Re: not entirely dead and gone <cid:764@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> (02/12)
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> 2. Please remove me from the list
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>>> >> maybe just evolving (I suspect rhizome may get left out, small as their
>>> >> fee is I can't imagine how they are going to get genuinely new to
>>> >> 'net.art' people in)
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>> > i do hope rhizome get left out, this is not really due to any real
>> > problem on my part towards rhizome just that i think they've spun out
>> > of control and can't see beyond their own circle anymore, so they
>> > need something to put them in check, honestly i hope its not the end
>> > of them!!! i have'nt paid the $5 because well firstly its genuinely
>> > something i can't afford at the moment (i know its small but my life
>> > is incredibly frugel at the moment) and i have to date 3 pieces in
>> > the artbase so why exactly should i have to pay to see my own works
>> > in the artbase?? this does'nt make sense!
>> >
>> > anyway as i said rhizome was just one of the main things that sparked
>> > me on this, other notable things are that i've noticed quite a few
>> > sites reviewing net.art etc have just dissapeared leaving no trace
>> > (mainly french ones) and they were by no means small!! this is the
>> > recent economy of internet i suppose but well it has me concerned, i
>> > mean servers are getting cheaper and its not like most of ever made
>> > money from our work anyway so whats going on there???
>
I have to say that Iım offended by this whole thread on Rhizome and this is
likely the first time I have posted to this listserve. Iım offended because
I feel Rhizome and any online net art institutions/orgs like it are
essential to the community of artists and researchers that have developed
around it.
I have no money at this point in my life(Iım a poor grad student), but I
have seen too many important online mags and groups that have done great
work in furthering art and culture in the post internet world die because no
one would support them. Meanwhile big corporate, bricks nı mortar orgs like
CNN online and BBC that have nothing new or interesting to contribute to
online culture, continue to flourish.
If we hope to have any meaningful discourse and have online spaces for
artists and digital art to be exhibited, and continue to develop the new
media art medium, we have to support those trying to create those
opportunities, discourses and spaces.
Quite honestly, I donıt understand why people are willing to spend loads of
money on meaningless things like cigarettes and alcohol, that disappear
instantly and ruin us, but canıt fork over $5 to sustain one of the
important institutions to net art, other new media works, and the artist
community that has developed around it. I think its shameful.
I live in Canada, so $5 USD is actually a lot more for me to fork over, yet
I decided that if I can pay $20 a year for a magazine subscription(or
several for that matter) that doesnıt have nearly the benefit to me, in
terms of community and evolving, collaborative discourse on new media
research, as well as giving me exposure to the latest explorers in net art
and the like, then I can fork over the same(in USD) to support Rhizome.
Perhaps others of you can see the irony and shame in this as well?
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Camille Baker - [log in to unmask]
* MASc Interactive Arts Candidate
* Research Assistant Whisper Project
* Technology Officer - CADS Graduate Association
Computing Arts and Design Sciences, Faculty of Applied Science
Simon Fraser University, Surrey Campus, Surrey, BC Canada
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