Of course political issues are of concern for us but not in relation to
that bit of our life concerned with our membership of Cilip. This was the
whole point of my message.
Tony McSean
Still speaking personally
john pateman
<johnpateman9@HOT To: [log in to unmask]
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Chartered Library RESTORE IRAQI LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
and Information
Professionals
<LIS-CILIP@JISCMA
IL.AC.UK>
29/04/03 11:09
Please respond to
Chartered Library
and Information
Professionals
Political issues are of concern to CILIP members because the money our
government wastes on waging uneccesary wars is the same money which will
now not be available for developing our library services. You cannot
divorce
professionalism from politics.
>From: Tony McSean <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO RESTORE
>IRAQI LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:31:02 +0100
>
>That's not the whole story, though. I would make a guess that a sizeable
>majority of Cilip members tend towards my own opinion that the war was an
>immoral and untimely affair and that we and our Iraqi equivalents have
paid
>high prices for toppling a vile and dangerous tyrant, of which looted
>libraries and museums really only of longer-term concern.
>
>However, this is a guess and I am equally certain that somewhere in the
>membership you will find all shades of opinion, plus a significant number
>whose opinions are coloured or stunned altogether by having relatives out
>there and at continuing risk. Royal charter or not, it is dangerous
>professionally and economically for membership organisations to stray
>beyond their finite professional remit into macropolitical areas. With
>mobs roaming the streets, religious fanatics pouring through the breach
>caused by American ignorance of how they are perceived abroad, no
>electricity, virtually no clean water and a Turkish government to the
north
>getting twitchy at the sight of so many Kurds having so much fun, I don't
>honestly think Cilip has as much of relevance to contribute as the average
>1960s student union had to the apartheid debate.
>
>Cilip can't afford to haemorrhage mmbers, and it can't afford to
predispose
>the government to lump us in with the Usual Suspects when the time for it
>to say some unwelcome truths about its (and our) core professional
>concerns. We are not short of avenues to make our views known,
>individually and collectively, but in my view Cilip isn't one of them.
>
>Tony McSean
>Whose message expresses his own personal views and not those of the BMA,
>the BMJ Publishing group or, sadly, the political party in which he was
>active for 25 years
>
>
>
>
>
>
> john pateman
> <johnpateman9@HOT To:
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> Sent by: Subject: Re: CILIP
PLEDGES
>SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO
> Chartered Library RESTORE IRAQI LIBRARY AND
>INFORMATION SERVICES
> and Information
> Professionals
> <LIS-CILIP@JISCMA
> IL.AC.UK>
>
>
> 29/04/03 10:00
> Please respond to
> Chartered Library
> and Information
> Professionals
>
>
>
>
>
>
>If CILIP can intervene politically now in the debate on the reconstruction
>of Iraq, why could they not have intervened politically in terms of STOP
>THE
>WAR and NOT IN OUR NAME? If the Royal Charter stops CILIP from effectively
>representing the views of its members, then it should be got rid of. Who
>wants to be associated with a feudal anachronistic institution in the 21st
>century?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Charles Oppenheim <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: CILIP PLEDGES SUPPORT FOR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO RESTORE
> >IRAQI LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES
> >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:47:44 +0100
> >
> >I would have thought that such a statement/lobbying suggested by
Pateman
> >is
> >contrary to CILIP's Royal Charter, but I leave it to the constitutional
> >experts to comment on that....
> >
> >Charles
> >
> >Professor Charles Oppenheim
>
>
>
>
>
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