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There are 15 messages totalling 433 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Books on Wardship
2. Katherine Cecil Thurston
3. Forthcoming Titles from Pickering & Chatto
4. conversaziones at Berkeley Galleries; mourning customs (3)
5. Course on Gender, Authorship, and Lit Canon (5)
6. conversaziones (3)
7. Ellen Wood
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:34:19 +1300
From: "Allan, Barry" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Books on Wardship
There was very little written in the nineteenth century on wardship: a
contemporary text (Lowe, N. V. (Nigel V). and White, R. A. H. (Richard
Andrew Hedges) Wards of Court. London ; Boston : Butterworths, 1979.)
refers to wardship as being shrouded in mystery and the only text even
mentioning the question being Simpson on Infants (last published in 1908 so
good luck finding this!). There was a UK Government working paper on wards
of Court in 1987 - that will probably give a historical account if you can
find one. In 1828, there was some judicial consideration of the nature of
a ward of Court in a case involving the Duke of Beaufort - there is likely
to be a hard copy of that in any Canadian law library.
Barry Allan
Faculty of Law, Otago University
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:19:13 +0100
From: "Dryden, Linda" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Katherine Cecil Thurston
Dear List members
One of my PhD students is focusing on the work of Katherine Cecil Thurston,
who, I believe, was a best selling author at the end of the nineteenth and
beginning of the twentieth century, before her untimely death. We would like
to know if anyone has done any work on Thurston--she apparently was a huge
success in the States and commanded massive advances for her work. Some of
her books were adapted for the cinema in the 1930s.
Thanks
Linda
Dr Linda Dryden
Senior Lecturer in Cultural Studies
Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
Napier University
Craighouse
Edinburgh EH10 5LG
Tel: 0131 455 6128
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:24:04 -0500
From: Paul Boland <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Forthcoming Titles from Pickering & Chatto
Dear all,
We are expanding our list in the area of Victorian literature and history
and will be publishing many titles in this area over the first half of
2004. You will find a list of titles with the month they are due to be
published below together with a link to their respective webpages.
Lives of Victorian Literary Figures II
(www.pickeringchatto.com/victorianlives2) January 2004
Nineteenth-Century Labouring Class Poets
(www.pickeringchatto.com/labouringpoets19) March 2004
Harriet Martineau's Writing on the British Empire
(www.pickeringchatto.com/martineau) March 2004
Nineteenth-Century Travels, Explorations and Empires
(www.pickeringchatto.com/travels2) April 2004
Late Victorian Utopias: A Prospectus
(www.pickeringchatto.com/victorianutopias) May 2004
Uncollected Letters of Algernon Charles Swinburne
(www.pickeringchatto.com/swinburne) May 2004
Varieties of Women's Sensation Fiction (www.pickeringchatto.com/sensation)
June 2004
Please contact Paul Boland for any further information or a copy of the
leaflet for any of these titles:
Paul Boland
Marketing Manager
Pickering & Chatto Publishers
21 Bloomsbury Way
London WC1A 2TH
Tel: +44 020 7405 1005
Fax: +44 020 7405 6216
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PS We also offer a special discount to affiliated academics. More details
on this unique discount can be found at
www.pickeringchatto.com/html/discount.htm.
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:32:33 -0500
From: "Susan D. Bernstein" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: conversaziones at Berkeley Galleries; mourning customs
Many thanks to several people who responded to my earlier query about some=
=20
allusions in Levy's .The Romance of a Shop. I have a few more.
1.
There is mention of "conversaziones at the Berkeley Galleries" [chap 15].
Does anyone have any information on these events specifically in the 1880s,=
=20
or on "conversaziones" or the Berkeley Gallery?
2.
[from chap 15]
Darrell smiled, with his face close to hers. His smile was considered=20
attractive=96
=93Seeming more generous for the coldness gone.=94
Can anyone help with identifying the quotation =93Seeming more generous for=
=20
the coldness gone=94?
3.
[from chap 21 following Phyllis's funeral]:
"It seemed a hideous act of cruelty to turn away at last and leave the poor=
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child lying there alone, while the sexton shovelled the loose earth on to=20
her coffin; hideous, but inevitable; and at midday Gertrude and Lucy drove=
=20
back in the dismal coach to Baker Street, where Mr. Maryon had put up=20
alternate shutters in the shop-window, and the umbrella-maker had drawn=20
down his blinds."
What kind of =93alternate shutters=94 would be put up in a shop-window in=
the=20
1880s in connection with a death in the household?
Many thanks in advance,
Susan Bernstein=
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:50:59 EDT
From: Jane Koven <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Course on Gender, Authorship, and Lit Canon
I think that Geraldine Jewsbury would be an interesting choice. Her novel,
The Half Sisters, recounts the "careers" of two heroines --- one becomes an
actress and remains "virtuous," the other, a wife, and "falls." Jewsbury
was a close frend of Jane Welsh Carlyle and Charlotte Cushman (a noted
actress); their friendship is discussed in Julia Markus' Across an Untried
Sea: Discovering Lives Hidden in the Shadow of Convention and Time.
Jane Koven
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:32:25 -0500
From: "Melnyk, Julie" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Course on Gender, Authorship, and Lit Canon
I might suggest any number of religious women writers, High Church
(Charlotte M. Yonge, Elizabeth Missing Sewell, Felicia Skene) or
Evangelical (Emma Jane Worboise, Charlotte Elizabeth Tonna, many others),
who were much-read and sometimes critically well-received in their day,
whose work is seldom incorporated into any alternative canon. Among poets
are any number of poet-hymnists who receive little or no attention. I
suppose this would fall into the "other factors" category of canonical
exclusion -- perhaps in part a discomfort in the academy with issues of
religious faith, perhaps more a feminist suspicion of patriarchal religious
traditions.
Yours,
Julie Melnyk
Associate Director
The Honors College
University of Missouri
213 Lowry Hall
Columbia, MO 65211
(573) 884-0620
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:00:04 -0400
From: Tara McGann <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Course on Gender, Authorship, and Lit Canon
I'll make a pitch for Hester, by Margaret Oliphant. The main character
saves her family's bank and then runs it. There's lots of interesting
material about inheritance--of wealth and of characteristics.
--
Tara McGann
Coordinator, Program in Narrative Medicine
Associate Managing Editor, Literature & Medicine
Columbia University, P&S
PH9E-105, 630 W. 168th Street
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212-305-9349 fax
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:01:49 -0400
From: David Latane <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Course on Gender, Authorship, and Lit Canon
Melnyk, Julie wrote:
"Among poets are any number of
poet-hymnists who receive little or no attention. I suppose this would
fall into the "other factors" category of canonical exclusion -- perhaps in
part a discomfort in the academy with issues of religious faith, perhaps
more
a feminist suspicion of patriarchal religious traditions."
To which I might add, also including a large number of male
poet-hymnists, that some were excluded from the canon because of the
prejudice among academics and readers of poetry against formulaic,
intellectually inert, prosodically boring verse. I personally find such
hymns to be quite comforting, like mashed potatoes and gravy, but not
for any reasons that make sense in relation to a poetic canon.
David Latane
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:54:37 -0700
From: "Margot K. Louis" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: conversaziones
> Does anyone have any information on these events specifically in the
> 1880s, or on "conversaziones" or the Berkeley Gallery?
In Anthony Trollope's _Framley Parsonage_, Mrs. Proudie holds a
conversazione; she presents it as a gathering for cultured discussion, but
everyone thinks her motives are to hold a party cheaply (very little is
offered to eat).
Margot K. Louis
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:46:40 -0700
From: Danny Sexton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Course on Gender, Authorship, and Lit Canon
In a course that I took on Victorian Gender, we read Dinah McCraik's John
Halifax: Gentleman, George Paston's A Writer of Books, and Olive
Schreiner's Story of an African Farm. Paston and Schreiner are in print,
but McCraik may not be. My copy is used, purschased through Barnes and
Noble. Also, Broadview has recently published an anthology entitled A
Serious Occupation: Literary Criticism by Victorian Women Writers edited
by Solveig C. Robinson. Below is a link to the Broadview site which gives
information about the text and a table of content.
www.broadviewpress.com.bvbooks.asp?BookID=612
I hope this information is helpful.
Danny Sexton
Ph.D. Candidate
Graduate Center/CUNY
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Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?
---Robert Browning's "Andrea del Sarto"
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:48:52 -0400
From: Linda Hunt Beckman <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: conversaziones at Berkeley Galleries; mourning customs
Susan, of course you know that Amy Levy's calendar shows that she
attended a converzazione at the Fabian Society in 1889. Levy refers to
it as an "At Home," but Elizabeth Pennell, in her diary, refers to it
as a "Converzazione." This hilarious description is cited in my
biography, but is from Pennell's April 12, 1889 entry: "We went to the
Converzazione of the Fabian Society in Bloomsbury Town Hall. A
collection of cranks, native and foreign: young women in extraordinary
costumes, one a perfect Burne-Jones, played the violin; young men with
long hair and velvet coats. Most people were in evening dress so that
a conspicuous figure was George Bernard Shaw in grey Jaeger get-up,
flirttng outrageously with all the girls in the room" (Amy Levy: Life
and Letters, 179).
Linda Hunt Beckman
Professor Emeritus
English Department
Ohio University
Residing in Philadelphia
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 12:32 PM, Susan D. Bernstein wrote:
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:37:52 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: conversaziones
In my research I found the elites of the medical profession in London
holding "conversationi" (pl?) at the Royal Colege of Physicians and (as I
recall) the Royal College of Surgeons. They seemed to me the equivalent of
the 21st century cocktail party at a professional conference.
I suspect you might find cartoons of such events in *Punch* as well.
Jeanne Peterson
Indiana University, Bloomington
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:15:48 -0700
From: Jack Kolb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: conversaziones at Berkeley Galleries; mourning customs
> 2.
> [from chap 15]
> Darrell smiled, with his face close to hers. His smile was considered
> attractive
> ?Seeming more generous for the coldness gone.?
>
> Can anyone help with identifying the quotation ?Seeming more generous for
> the coldness gone??
Literature Online gives:
The Spanish Gypsy, by George Eliot, Book 1:
465 A true hidalgo's smile,
466 That gives much favour, but beseeches none.
467 His smile is sweetened by his gravity:
468 It comes like dawn upon Sierra snows,
469 14d4e5e1.jpg Seeming more generous for the coldness gone;
470 Breaks from the calm---a sudden opening flower
471 On dark deep waters: now a chalice shut,
472 A mystic shrine, the next a full-rayed star,
473 Thrilling, pulse-quickening as a living word.
474 I'll make a song of that.
Jack Kolb
Dept. of English, UCLA
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:49:29 -0700
From: "Bailey, Les" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: conversaziones
The debating society to which Tennyson and Arthur Hallam and other brash =
young intellectuals belonged at Cambridge in the late 1820s was =
formally known as the Cambridge Conversazione Society. The Apostles, =
the more familiar name by which we know them, was, as Jerome Buckley =
remarks (Tennyson [1960] 27), at first used derisively.=20
Les Bailey
Department of English
Saint Martin's College
Olympia, Washington 98503
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:40:29 +1000
From: Lucy Sussex <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Ellen Wood
I'd second Tamara Wagner's comments on Ellen Wood. I had a job reviewing
mostly modern novels, which I undertook while researching Ellen Wood.
What was disturbing was that I found myself entering the Rare Books room
to read Wood with far more enthusiasm than opening a new, hotshot novel.
And she is not generally regarded as a Victorian writer of the first
rank!
There is more to the lady than we would think. Certainly a mistress of
narrative.
Lucy
--
Lucy Sussex
Writer, Editor, Researcher
'Of course I draw from life - but I always pulp my acquaintance before
serving them up. You would never recognize a pig in a sausage' -
Frances Trollope
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