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There are 15 messages totalling 427 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Eccentricity:thanks
2. Women and Art Musuems (5)
3. Chain of Causation
4. 1840s/50s Marxist novelists
5. automata
6. Women and Art Museums
7. Peninsular War novels (2)
8. RHS Bibliographies online
9. Thakeray and art
10. Images of Wilkie Collins
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:51:38 -0500
From: James Gregory <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Eccentricity:thanks
Thanks to everyone who contacted me privately or responded publicly to my
request for help about Victorian discussions on eccentricity/ examples of
eccentrics. Some really useful advice, and entertaining cases.
I'll be delighted to receive any further communications on uncommon, odd,
fantastic, extraordinary, crankish, crotchety, faddist personages!
James Gregory
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:05:20 -0000
From: Valerie Gorman <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Women and Art Musuems
I'm sure you've already covered Christina Rosetti's "In an Artist's Studio"
or are you not covering poetry, only fiction?
Valerie Gorman
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:38:44 -0000
From: Andrew Mangham <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Women and Art Musuems
In Mrs Henry Wood's _St. Martin's Eve_, Adeline de Castella visits her =
next door neighbour's studio to have a portrait done; plus she later =
ends up being a piece of statuary herself when she is exhibited dead to =
the locals as a "beautiful corpse" (a provincial French custom =
apparently). Then of course there is Lady Audley's preraphaelite =
portrait and Du Maurier's eponymous Trilby models for the Parisian =
bohemians. You might also find Gail Marshall's _Actresses on the =
Victorian Stage_ interesting as it negotiated these ideas of women as =
statues, etc.
Hope it helps
Andrew Mangham
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Andrew Mangham
PhD Candidate
Department of English Literature
The University of Sheffield
Shearwood Mount
Shearwood Road
Sheffield
South Yorkshire
UK
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:50:17 -0000
From: Andrew Mangham <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Chain of Causation
Dear Victorianists,
Having recently been looking at some famous Victorian murder trials, it =
suddenly occured to me (from those hazy 'A' level Law days) that here in =
England we still use the Victorian definition (by Coke I think) of =
murder to convict people of the crime. Here's where my memory fails and =
I need your help: is the term/idea "chain of causation" also a Victorian =
one? Was it put forth at the same time as Coke's "with malice =
aforethought" definition?
Many thanks in advance,
Andrew Mangham
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Andrew Mangham
PhD Candidate
Department of English Literature
The University of Sheffield
Shearwood Mount
Shearwood Road
Sheffield
South Yorkshire
UK
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sensation_novel
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:56:38 -0000
From: Susan Hoyle <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 1840s/50s Marxist novelists
If I recall correctly, the publication history of the Manifesto was not
straightforward. In particular, the English-language version was not
available for many years - I hope this is right! - and so tracing its
impact on Eng Lit could be complex.
Susan Hoyle
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:31:47 -0500
From: Beth Sutton-Ramspeck <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Women and Art Musuems
Mary Ward, whose husband was art critic (among other things) for the
_Times_, has many, many scenes of women making, modeling for, and
viewing works of art.
Her first novel, _Miss Bretherton_ (1884), begins with a scene in an art
gallery, where we see the title character for the first time.
In the third section ("Storm and Stress") of _The History of David
Grieve_ (1892), the hero falls in love with a painter who spends a great
deal of time at the Louvre; David's sister becomes a model for a
sculptor after visiting his studio.
In _Helbeck of Bannisdale_ (1896), the heroine, Laura Fountain, becomes,
without her permission, the model for St. Ursula in a fresco in the
Bannisdale chapel being produced by a young Jesuit. This is in Book IV,
especially ch. 3.
Moving into the "long 19th century," _Fenwick's Career_ (1906) is a
fictionalized and updated telling of the life of the 18th century
portrait painter George Romney, and there are a LOT of scenes in which
first Fenwick's wife and then his patroness are his models; we also see
his patroness visiting his studio.
I hope this is helpful.
Beth Sutton-Ramspeck
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:39:35 -0500
From: Beth Sutton-Ramspeck <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: automata
As I was checking the location of the art scenes in Mary Ward's _Helbeck
of Bannisdale_, I happened upon the following. Laura Fountain is an
atheist staying in a devoutly Catholic home which is visited regularly
by nuns and priests, whose ideas and behaviors Laura finds
incomprehensible:
"These Catholic figures were to her so many disagreeable automata, moved
by springs she could not possibly conceive, and doing perpetually the
most futile and foolish things." (Book III, ch. 3; p. 277 in Penguin
ed.).
Beth Sutton-Ramspeck
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 16:43:24 +0000
From: anne gomez huff <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Women and Art Museums
Gosse's _Father and Son_ also has the unforgettable Susan Flood, of whom "It
was first whispered, than openly stated, that these relatives had taken her
to the Crystal Palace, where, in passing through the Sculpture Gallery,
Susan's sense of decency had been so grievously affronted, that she had
smashed the naked figures with the handle of her parasol, before her
horrified companions could stop her. She had, in fact, run amok among the
statuary..."
Anne Gomez Huff
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:56:59 -0500
From: "Eileen M. Curran" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Peninsular War novels
A friend at another institution has sent me this query:
> I've recently become interested in the Peninsular War in
Spain (1808-1814), and have been starting to research some
of the Victorian fiction of the period. So far I've looked at
W. H. Maxwell (barely readable) and Charles Lever (I've just
started Charles O'Malley the Irish Dragoon, which I like
very much). Do you happen to know of other authors who
wrote fiction on that subject, or if there is a bibliography?<
At the moment, though I can think of Peninsular veterans who appear in
other novels, usually as minor characters, the only Peninsular novels that
come to mind are Lever's and Maxwell's.
Any others out there? I'll pass on all suggestions. Many thanks, from my
friend and me, to all of you who ransack your memories on this.
Eileen
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:26:15 -0600
From: Patrick Leary <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: RHS Bibliographies online
[The following comes to us from historian Peter Mandler at Cambridge (not a
subscriber), who has asked leave to expound at greater length on the great
usefulness to Victorianists of the new online version of the Royal
Historical Society bibliographies. Links to the RHS site, and to other
such tools, can of course be found in the "Bibliographies" section of the
Victoria Research Web, at
http://VictorianResearch.org/libraries.html#biblios ]
Victorianists who are not historians may not be fully aware of the RHS
Bibliographies, now available free on-line at
http://www.rhs.ac.uk/bibwel.html (for an introduction) or
http://www.rhs.ac.uk/bibl/ (to start searching). Patrick Leary has pointed
out the associated London's Past On-Line Bibliography (which can be
accessed through the main site or on its own at
http://www.rhs.ac.uk/bibl/london.asp), but the underlying principles -
which the two bibliographies share - and the scope of the main RHS
Bibliography may still be unclear.
The main RHS Bibliography records details of over 300,000 publications in
British, Irish and imperial history, covering all periods. These include
journal articles, chapters in edited books, and books and pamphlets. For
Victorianists, the immense usefulness of this database lies in the fact
that each publication is indexed by SUBJECT based on a huge set of
subject-terms (including place-names and personal names and all manner of
more abstract subjects), as well as by period covered. So you can search
for 'animals, attitudes to' in 1830-1901, and get 24 publications over the
past 50 years, including material as disparate as vivisection, views on
bird plumes in women's hats, and attitudes to zoological displays. (If you
put in 'animals' alone, you get 150 hits, ranging more widely than these
controversial subjects.) Anyone can therefore construct a pretty exhaustive
bibliography on a very focused historical subject in a matter of minutes,
for free, and at your desk. No more asking, 'does anyone remember where
that article by Brian Harrison on Victorian attitudes to animals appeared?'
(you can of course search by author as well), or 'does anyone know if
there's any work on the plumage controversy in the last 10 years?'.
Of course, you can - and should! - still ask, 'does anyone know any GOOD
work on the plumage controversy?'. A bibliography can't do quality control.
But it's a great starting point for any student, or even an experienced
scholar exploring new areas. And Victorianists who do interdisciplinary
work are so often exploring new areas that they ought to find this tool
highly useful.
Peter Mandler
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 15:14:57 -0600
From: Anne Thornton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Thakeray and art
Judith Fisher certainly is still at Trinity (her husband is a professor =
of
mine), and she has recently published _Thackeray's Skeptical Narrative =
and
the 'Perilous Trade' of Authorship_. (Aldershot, Hants; Burlington, VT: =
Ashgate, 2002.) See=20
esp. pages 48-57 on Thackeray's art criticism.
Best,
=20
Anne Thornton
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 15:02:00 -0800
From: Sheldon Goldfarb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Peninsular War novels
Thackeray's parody of Lever may be worth looking at: "Phil Fogarty: A Tale
of the Fighting Onety-Oneth" by Harry Rollicker.
It's in Thackeray's collection of parodies which first appeared in Punch as
"Punch's Prize Novelists" (and later appeared as "Novels by Eminent Hands").
(See vol. 8 of The Oxford Thackeray.)
The brief story is all about fighting during the Napoleonic Wars; there's
even a confrontation between Phil Fogarty and Napoleon himself. Not
entirely sure if the action is supposed to be on the Peninsula; there is
very little in the way of description or setting of the scene. Rather, the
parody begins in medias res:
"The gabion was ours. After two hours' fighting we were in possession of
the first embrasure, and made ourselves as comfortable as circumstances
would admit. Jack Delamere, Tom Delancy, Jerry Blake, the Doctor, and
myself sat down under a pontoon, and our servants laid out a hasty supper on
a tumbril. Though Cambacérès had escaped me so provokingly after I cut him
down, his spoils were mine; a cold fowl and Bologna sausage were found in
the Marshal's holsters; and in the haversack of a French private who lay a
corpse on the glacis, we found a loaf of bread, his three days' ration.
Instead of salt, we had gunpowder..."
And so on.
Sheldon Goldfarb
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:31:26 -0000
From: Paul Lewis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Images of Wilkie Collins
I have added two new images to my listing of 64 images of Wilkie Collins.
These two new photographs from 1862 and 1884 seem unrecorded elsewhere.
You can find them at www.wilkiecollins.com menu item 2.
Paul
Paul Lewis
web www.paullewis.co.uk
tel 07836 217311
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:14:07 -0500
From: Pat and Govind Menon <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Women and Art Musuems
There are two scenes that might be of interest in Henry James' <The Tragic
Muse> (1890). In Chapter 2, Nick Dormer, a would-be painter, takes his
sister, who would like to sculpt, to the Paris Salon to a sculpture
exhibition. Later (Chapter 25), to the distress of his fiancee, the actress
Miriam Rooth poses for a portrait in Dormer's studio.
Pat Menon
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:45:16 -0400
From: "Terry L. Meyers" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Women and Art Musuems
If the broad Victorian Age includes Hawthorne's The Marble Faun
(written, I think I recall, in England), then it too should feature.
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