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Subject:

Re: A suggestion

From:

Bernard Doherty <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

Date:

Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:09:57 +0000

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Oh, St John, once more you know the answer already; what a tease with
rhetoric you are.  Awards Officers have huge powers of discretion and,
providing they have the support of their director of education, can
pretty well make up their own policy, however singular and outre.
Before Singleton and the Be Nice to Students with Dyslexia publication,
many LEAs did exactly as you suggest.  The net effect was discriminate
outrageously against students whose schools had not arranged a formal
assessment (often because the same LEA did not fund them) and had no
money as individuals to pay for an assessment.  This was not a good
thing.

Why not approach the question from a different angle?  All HEIs make it
compulsory for students to own a PC before they can be accepted on a
course, a straightforward universal requirement.  Would this
significantly affect the numbers coming forward for what is described
as a 'specialist equipment allowance'?

Regards, Bernard

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:46:00 -0000 "Skeates,St.John DEAL Awards Tm"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Interesting - I was just making that very point to a colleague when I was
> suggesting that we, as an Authority, would be within our legal rights to
> only accept a full EP report as evidence of dyslexia
>
> St.John Skeates
> Awards Section
> Bedfordshire County Council
> Direct Line 01234 718744
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Velarde [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]; Skeates,St.John DEAL Awards Tm
> Subject: Re: A suggestion
>
>
>
>
> Pls bear in mind that Bridging the Gap is not the law. Andy
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S.D.Clayton" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: A suggestion
>
>
> > St John,
> >
> > See  'Bridging the Gap', Page 9 para 2:
> >
> > "You will need to satisfy your LEA (or OU) that the effects of your
> > condition will mean that you will need to pay extra costs  in attending
> your
> > course"
> >
> > In the OU, medical evidence alone is not always enough to progress an
> > application. We need to be satisfied that evidence demonstrates the
> above.
> > I'm sure we've all seen Doctor's notes for bad backs - in our case that
> > would not be enough to proceed.
> >
> > Anyone agree/disagree?
> >
> > Useful going back to basics sometimes......
> >
> > ___________________________________________
> > Steve Clayton
> > Manager, DSAs Planning and Resources
> > Disabled Student Services Section
> > The Open University
> > Tel: ++44 (01908 858937) Fax (01908 659044)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Skeates,St.John DEAL Awards Tm
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 07 February 2003 15:40
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: A suggestion
> >
> >
> > So under the present system we provide support based on the off chance
> that
> > a student will experience similar difficulties to those previously
> > experienced by a student with a similar disability on a similar course
> when
> > it entirely possible that the student will not, in fact, experience any
> such
> > difficulties?
> >
> > St.John Skeates
> > Awards Section
> > Bedfordshire County Council
> > Direct Line 01234 718744
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mary Bown [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:34 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]; Skeates,St.John DEAL Awards Tm
> > Subject: Re: A suggestion
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A student (and an LEA)has little conception of the amout or depth of
> study
> > requered untill they are on the course so how can they prove that their
> > disability will NOT have an addvers effect on their ability to study!!
> >
> > Sorry can't find the spell checker in this email package
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Skeates,St.John DEAL Awards Tm"
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: "Discussion list for disabled students and their support
> > staff."
> > >             <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: A suggestion
> > >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:07:00 -0000
> > >
> > >That the Student Support Regulations pertaining to Disabled Student's
> > >Allowance be amended to the effect that;
> > >
> > >In order for a student to be eligible for Disabled Student's Allowance
> > >and be referred for a needs assessment, they must not only prove they
> > >have a disability but must also demonstrate to the satisfaction of
> > >their LEA that their disability has a significant effect on their
> > >ability to study.
> > >
> > >Will leave you to kick that one around for a bit :)
> > >
> > >St.John Skeates
> > >Awards Section
> > >Bedfordshire County Council
> > >Direct Line 01234 718744
> > >
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----------------------
Bernard Doherty
Student Adviser
ACCESS Centre
Anglia Polytechnic University

Tel: 01223 363271 x2534
Fax: 01223 417730
Minicom: 01223 576155
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