I agree. I for one want to know what resources are available.

Piers Coutts

Economics & Business Studies Department
The King's School
Ely
Cambs
CB7 4DB

01353 653916

-----Original Message-----
From: Finbarr Carter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 September 2002 16:29
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The New Tutor2u


A discussion forum should be for discussion and I don't believe it should
be stifled unless it becomes offensive or totally inappropriate.

Surely teachers of economics and Business Studies want to know what
resources are available to help them teach their subjects.

And if the person is advertising rubbish I am sure no one will hold back in
telling them the truth.

Let's be adults and regulate our own discussions

Finbarr Carter

At 13:38 04/09/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>It is a problem.
>
>It is assumed that we need to know about good web resources, however,
>we don't want to overload the list with advertisements
>
>But the problem does arise that publicity through the list is a key way
>for people to find resources. The difficulty
>arises that if the individual was not associated with Tutor2U then
>they are simply highlighting a web resource that they have found very
>useful and it would be appropriate to publicise it over the list,
>similar to mapping BBC articles to curriculum requirements. However,
>because the person is raising awareness of their own product then it
>might be frowned upon.
>
>A potential 3rd way would be either Tutor2U or Bized hosting a
>password protected area just for list members so that they can upload
>links their recommended sites. It maybe reinventing the wheel but it
>would appease all members of the list.
>
>Personally, I'd favour the situation where people can publicise their
>sites, but if they are of poor quality, then they can be shamed on the
>list ! Brutal, but effective.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Andy
>
>On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:09:35
>+0100 Duncan Williamon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Some time ago I made a posting to this list and included a link to my
>> own
>> completely free, altruistic, web site. I received a mauling from one of
>> the
>> web masters of the tutor2u web site and follow up communication
>> bordered on
>> the offensive, and was certainly unwarranted in my opinion: off list
>> messages to me supported my own view at that time.
>>
>> We have had two advertisements for tutor2u over the last week or so:
>> this
>> latest a very extensive missive.
>>
>> I have no problem with tutor2u, osl or any other such web site plying
>> their
>> excellent wares here; but I would like to be assured that if one site is
>> mauled they are all mauled. Alternatively, and this is the more mature
>> and
>> appropriate approach, none of us is mauled and childish comments from
>> web
>> masters are ruled out of hand.
>>
>> Duncan Williamson
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Riley" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:39 AM
>> Subject: The New Tutor2u
>>
>>
>> > A quick note for anyone on this list who uses tutor2u.
>> >
>> > Following our summer User Survey, we have been busy upgrading the
>> tutor2u
>> > website.
>> >
>> > The new site is due to go live on Saturday 14 September.  Please
>> accept my
>> > apologies in advance for any disturbance to your use of the site on
>> this
>> day
>> > - which I will try to keep to a minimum.  Please note in particular
>> that
>> you
>> > will not be able to access the discussion forums on that day. The
>> forum
>> > database is being ported to a new, faster platform during the day and
>> we
>> wil
>> > also be undertaking some essential maintenance work.
>> >
>> > I hope that you will like the new site - it reflects many of the
>> features
>> > that were requested by users in the survey.  These include:
>> >
>> > - Power search: a much-improved site search engine that allows you to
>> > restrict your search to specific subjects (e.g. Econ, Marketing);
>> resource
>> > types (e.g. revision notes, interactive tests, powerpoint
>> presentations
>> > etc); and study levels
>> > - Interactive testing: we aim to add over 500 free interactive tests
>> by
>> > December, including multiple choice, fill-in-the-gaps, quick quiz and
>> > interactive crosswords: The first batch of around 50 tests will be
>> available
>> > at launch
>> > - New, interactive glossary, containing over 1,000 economics,
>> business and
>> > political terms (with more being added each day); each term is
>> defined,
>> > linked to related terms and also linked to revision materials or
>> external
>> > resources.
>> > - Extensive new free content covering marketing, accounting, strategy,
>> human
>> > resource management and operations
>> > - Over 85 fully revised Economics powerpoint presentations
>> > - E-Letter Courses - a range of over 2 new, free email-based revision
>> > courses specific to your exam board and level.  So far, over 2,000
>> > subscribers have signed up to this service in the week since launch
>> > - A much improved and less "busy" - website look and feel.  We have
>> taken
>> > out over 45% of the "page weight" and given the site a more consistent
>> feel
>> > and navigation
>> > - No more adverts!  We have taken out the various adverts and other
>> elements
>> > that give the current site an overtly commercial feel
>> >
>> > Nothing is perfect.  Particularly not tutor2u.  So please excuse us
>> whilst
>> > we iron out any gremlins that appear in the early days after launch.
>> Your
>> > feedback on the new site and approach will, as ever, be much
>> appreciated.
>> >
>> > Best wishes
>> >
>> > Jim Riley
>> > Tutor2u
>> >
>> >
>> > p.s. if anyone would like a sneek preview of the new site and perhaps
>> help
>> > us with some late user-testing, let me know off-list and I will send
>> you a
>> > url and password.
>> >
>> >
>
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>Andy Ramsden
>Learning Technologies Adviser - LTSS
>
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>Bristol University
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>


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