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Re: Shortage of business and economics teachers

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"r.loxley" <[log in to unmask]>

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For teachers and lecturers interested in curriculum issues affecting the te <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 2 May 2002 08:43:18 +0100

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Not as inspired as the one you made in 1995!!  Or was that just a shortage
of good candidates!
----- Original Message -----
From: Geoff Riley <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Shortage of business and economics teachers


> I appointed someone straight from University (Newcastle) in 1990 as a new,
young, naive HoD and it was one of the most inspired decisions I have ever
made - the person concerned cut his teeth at the RGS for five years and is
now a highly successul housemaster/HoD at a leading Independent day/boarding
school.
>
> No personal experience of the GTP in recent years - but if the right
person comes along, I would have no hesitation in doing so again - indeed I
have interviewed two such people in the last four months who simply wrote to
me or the school asking if there were jobs available or in the pipeline
>
> Housing costs must be one of the big issues. I could never have left the
RGS to come down to my present school unless accommodation had been part of
the package
>
> Geoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r.loxley [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thu 02/05/2002 08:00
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: Shortage of business and economics teachers
>
>
>
> Adrian,
>
> Interesting.  To solve the problem we have twice had to recruit fresh from
> university.  Once was ten years ago (before my time here) and the second
> time was this year.  I have a new graduate, without a PGCE, starting in
> September who will need to be trained up on the GTP.  I have had to give
him
> a very much reduced timetable (which is fine) although we needed him to
> relieve pressure as numbers are growing.  Consequently I cannot have four
U6
> sets as I would like but have to put up with three very large ones.  The
> risk is that he could find it a struggle and not be up to it, which a PGCE
> finds out for us.  I would be interested in your feedback on the GTP, and
> advice on it.
>
> Roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adrian Lyons <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Shortage of business and economics teachers
>
>
> > Roger,
> >
> > I think the specific problem for Economics is:
> >
> > Rapid decline in popularity of Economics as opposed to Business Studies
in
> > most schools (I know your school is an honourable exception)
> > This knocks on several years later to decline in numbers specialising in
> > Economics at PGCE
> > This in turn leads to lack of availability of Economics teachers forcing
> > more schools to drop Economics in favour of Business.
> >
> > Adrian Lyons
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   r.loxley [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:   01 May 2002 08:16
> > To:     [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:        Re: Shortage of business and economics teachers
> >
> >  << File: ATT00009.html >> I wrote on this topic earlier this year.  For
> > some reason there seems to be a paucity of candidates for jobs and yet
> > there are still jobs in the TES.  I do feel that some research needs to
be
> > carried out into this phenomenon, sooner rather than later.
> >
> > Our recent vacancy, which arose due to the need to recruit an extra
person
> > to the department due to expanding numbers of Economics students,
> attracted
> > one application.  I even approached the main PGCE centres for Economics
> and
> > yet none of their students applied (it was March and many may have had
> jobs
> > already).  Certainly it is a siuation that we are very familiar with
here
> > in the NE.  Each Economics job attracts maybe two to six applicants,
most
> > of whom are not even interviewable.  We have been lucky in that each
time
> > we have had a vacancy the one candidate interviewed has been eminently
> > appointable.
> >
> > Nevertheless it raises questions about the mobility of good Economics
> > teachers.  Do the big southern schools have the same problems or are
they
> > swamped with applicants?  Is it a north/south thing? (your experience
> > suggests not).  Are all the Economics PGCE students finding jobs before
> > October?  Where are all the vacancies coming from?  Economics is
expanding
> > in those schools where it is taught well but who's doing the teaching?
> >
> > Answers on a postcard please .....
> >
> > Roger Loxley
> > Head of Economics
> > Royal Grammar School
> > Newcastle
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: CJ or SI Turner
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:00 AM
> >   Subject: Shortage of business and economics teachers
> >
> >
> >   Can the situation have got so bad?  I knew anecdotally that it was
hard
> > to replace staff, but our recent advert in the Times Ed for a Head of
> > Business Studies (in Hertfordshire) has resulted in no applicants at
all.
> >  Is this typical, or are we doing something wrong?
> >
> >   Sue Turner
> >
>
>
>
>
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