Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/minutes/this-week.txt
(as well as being listed with other minutes e.g. 020312.txt).
Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 482, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK Video - IP: 194.36.1.234
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GridPP PMB Minutes 25 - 12th March 2002
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Present: Steve Lloyd, Neil Geddes, Tony Cass, Nick Brook, Tony Doyle,
John Gordon, Robin Middleton, Dave Britton (via H323).
Progress on Actions
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ACTION 15.2 TD to iterate with OC on understanding of management of Tier2
Centres.
SLL has talked with Paul Jeffreys and discussed a number of things with
both local PP and eScience. Working on various projects in context of
Oxford eScience and Wish to be further engaged with GridPP and EDG. Also
JG , Andrew McNab & Tony have iterated on testbed setup & how to extend to
the Tier-2's : 1) rollout to Tier-2 centres, JCG has role on SC2 and in
liaison with Tier-2s, whilst Andrew also has his WP6 role. Details of task
splitting need to be worked out. ATLAS for forthcoming DC require minimum
of 100 nodes at a site - UK-ATLAS want to aggregate virtually to achieve
this. Still need to define what a Tier-2 is - US groups have a clearer
definition (including a requirement of 2 FTEs to operate each Tier-2
centre) - a commitment to being defined as a Tier-2 helps the Tier-2 in
getting funding and the resource is better defined for users/managers of
the Grid. This issue is ongoing, though the specific action will soon
close. Ultimately the experiments will determine the Tier-2 sites, but
GridPP should be proactive in establishing candidate UK sites. ONGOING
ACTION 17.9 SL with Andrew McNab, improve website.
Andrew now has the code to do the GridPP members database. SLL will meet
with Andrew on 26th March to tie up loose ends. However the major inputs
will come from the TB (including WP liaison people) and EB.
ONGOING
ACTION 17.14 JG Revise Tier1/A Staffing levels.
ONGOING : JG still needs further input within RAL.
ACTION 17.19 DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting.
Macros have been written and preliminary testing has been done. A more
thorough test is now needed with real data. Q4 data exists and Q5 data will
soon be requested by. The gathered reports should go on certificate-protected
areas on the GridPP web - RPM to do this for TB and Nick Brook for EB.
ONGOING
ACTION 25.1: RM collate TB Q5 reports and provide summary document.
ACTION 25.2: NB collate EB Q5 reports (LHCb only) and provide summary document.
ACTION 17.23 PC, RM , NB and Frank Harris to improve communication of TB
and EB with WP8.
DONE
Evaluation of a dry run for LHCb will happen after ACTION to produce
automatic reports for PPARC OS consumption.
Reports will be presented by RPM & NB at May 1st PMB along with PC Gantt
chart, which will then go to the next meeting of the Oversight Committee on
15th May.
ACTION 25.3: PC implement Q5 reports within Gantt charts.
ACTION 20.1: PC & TD to produce integrated risk assessment document &
GANTT charts for OS meeting in May.
TD will produce the risk assessment along with PC's Gantt chart as input. The
Gantt chart should show the experimental requirements and dependency on
the technical work.
ONGOING
ACTION 24.1 RM to get information on recruiting from experiments.
ONGOING
Issues Arising
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LCG is a much larger project than EDG and it is important to ensure that
GridPP is playing its full part in LCG. For example, the rollout post
still needs to be filled. Concern that the recruitment web page for the
"CERN" jobs information is not being seen. An advert is also going into
Computer Weekly. Closing date is 20th March with selection boards after
Easter.
Discussion on whether GridPP should maintain a regular news page on the
GridPP web site.
ACTION 25.4 ALL to provide input on news each week: SL to select a news
item and put up on the web.
(e.g. EU review, allocation of eScience studentships)
ACTION 25.5 TD to contact WP11 on the NeSC opening.
EU Framework 6 discussion at EDG-PMB - GridPP need to formulate their
position on FP6. Ideas include security, deployment, industry, research,
eScience.
AoB
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UK needs to provide people to collaborate on iVDGL - Manchester and UCL
are possibilities on networking and a person to take the VDT software and
install it.
NeSC launch
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ACTION 25.6 RB (BaBar), NB (LHCb) and TD (query optimiser) to propose
NeSC opening demonstrators by March 25th.
LHCb will provide poster/slides and Glenn Patrick is installing the demo
on a laptop, Eric will come as a back-up. Will Bell is leading work on the
demonstrator for the query optimiser. David Williams will present at the
NeSC meeting. The 3 potential demos have been outlined to the NeSC
executive. The review of potential demos will be on 25th March and all
material is to be provided to TD before this date.
Currently ~3 GridPP people at CERN or soon to be at CERN. The people sent
from UK Institutes are classed as PPARC eScience fellows.
Next Meeting
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Next meeting is monthly meeting at Bristol 11am-5pm Tuesday 19th March.
Outstanding Actions
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ACTION 15.2 TD to iterate with OC on understanding of management of Tier2
Centres.
ACTION 17.9 SL with Andrew McNab, improve website.
ACTION 17.14 JG Revise Tier1/A Staffing levels.
ACTION 17.19 DB process spreadsheet from PC and use in reporting.
ACTION 20.1: PC & TD to produce integrated risk assessment document &
GANTT charts for OC meeting on May 15.
ACTION 24.1 RM to get information on recruiting from experiments.
ACTION 25.1: RM collate TB Q5 reports and provide summary document.
ACTION 25.2: NB collate EB Q5 reports (LHCb only) and provide summary document.
ACTION 25.3: PC implement Q5 reports within Gantt charts.
ACTION 25.4 ALL to provide input on news each week: SL to select a news
item and put up on the web.
ACTION 25.5 TD to contact WP11 on the NeSC opening.
ACTION 25.6 RB (BaBar), NB (LHCb) and TD (query optimiser) to propose
NeSC opening demonstrators by March 25th.
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