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Subject:

Re: A Question of Origins

From:

Candice Ward <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:32:23 -0500

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NOW what are you talking about, Dave?

Bewilderedly,

Candice



on 1/4/02 11:56 AM, david.bircumshaw at [log in to unmask] wrote:

>> Is this as nasty as it seems, Dave, or am I misreading your intent? It
> makes
>> me feel kind of sick--Candice
>>
>
> It's a salutary lesson in the texture of e-mails when someone other than the
> normal practitioners puts up a post where others cannot tell what the intent
> actually is, nessy pas? Where for instance you can't tell whether the post
> is nasty, or a spoiler, or just a harmless joke, or quite what it is.
>
> It's almost as bad as when you can't be sure of true identity or identities
> of the authors of messages. Where you keep wondering are they just playing
> games with people. Where intent is concealed.
>
> Awful that, eh?
>
>
> Best
>
> Dave
>
>
> David Bircumshaw
>
> Leicester, England
>
> Home Page
>
> A Chide's Alphabet
>
> Painting Without Numbers
>
> www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Candice Ward" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: A Question of Origins
>
>
>> Is this as nasty as it seems, Dave, or am I misreading your intent? It
> makes
>> me feel kind of sick--Candice
>>
>>
>>
>> on 1/4/02 1:33 AM, david.bircumshaw at [log in to unmask]
> wrote:
>>
>>>> 2. If you normally do something you usually or regularly do it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Definition's Joke Books
>>>
>>> In Camp Beta-Buchenwald Seven-
>>> Three-Oh-One, as per
>>> usual, a guard snuffed out a
>>> prisoner, smilingly
>>> because it was normal. Er
>>>
>>> the yid looked like 'd bin
>>> thinking, you see.
>>> Like an escapee.
>>>
>>> While his good frau's plate woke
>>> to a dazed turkey, beating on the door
>>> like a heart, that had
>>>
>>> 'scaped the season of slaughter
>>> only to home onto death. 's normal
>>>
>>> - 's enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Bircumshaw
>>>
>>> Leicester, England
>>>
>>> Home Page
>>>
>>> A Chide's Alphabet
>>>
>>> Painting Without Numbers
>>>
>>> www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm
>>>
>>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sonia Lipenolch" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: A Question of Origins
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 01:46:40 +0100, Martin J. Walker <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can't orange a meeting with Erminia, didn't you get her message,
> she's
>>>> cold, like noli me tangerine.
>>>
>>>
>>> What? Dearest Candice asked me a meeting? Good Heavens, I must have
> missed
>>> the lines...Of course we can meet, Candice, the two of us, when you
> like,
>>> (let the children come to me...)
>>>
>>> Here is my first poem written this year: when I sent it to my 2
> children,
>>> they telephoned me within minutes, having interpreted it as me being
>>> pregnant of a new child, but in fact my husband reassured them saying it
>>> is just about the new Year 2002 itself.
>>>
>>> I myslef did not know what I was writing about (and this is good,
> because
>>> I , being the writer, am no longer supposed to know or tell...)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It comes to me."
>>>
>>> It comes to me- unclaimed -
>>> knocks at the door
>>> disrupting my quietness,
>>> new, incredible, unique
>>> out of  my speech,
>>> a heart I was not expecting.
>>>
>>> A heart,  so unmanageable,
>>> like a child out of a virgin's womb,
>>> - fat and dubious artifice,
>>> resembling a grave cherub -
>>> pulsating on the table
>>> and bleeding between my hands
>>> while the world happens.
>>>
>>> Erminia, 2 January 2002
>>>
>>>
>>> "Viene a me ."
>>>
>>> Viene a me, non richiesto -
>>> bussa alla porta
>>> distrurbando la mia pace,
>>> nuovo, implausibile, unico
>>> emerso dal linguaggio,
>>> un cuore che non attendevo.
>>>
>>>
>>> Un cuore, irragirabile,
>>> come un bimbo dal ventre d' una vergine,
>>> - grasso dubbioso artificio,
>>> simile a un funereo cherubino -
>>> palpitante sul tavolo
>>> e sanguinante fra le mie mani,
>>> mentre il mondo accade.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Erminia, Il 2 Gennaio 2002
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, replying to Alison about the issue of "normality", I have a few
>>> themes to exchange:
>>> This is what I have found out about normality and to be normal. After
>>> intense researching, now I can communicate the following data about
>>> normality.
>>> 1. A norm  is an accepted standard or a way of behaving or doing things
>>> that most people agree with. Normality is the state of being normal.
>>> To normalize is to return to the normal or usual situation.
>>>
>>> 2. If you normally do something you usually or regularly do it.
>>>
>>> 3. If something happens normally it happens in the usual or expected
> way.
>>>
>>> 4. It seems that normality is a female black winged angel with down cast
>>> eyes, wearing short black leather gloves, seated on a stool against a
>>> wooden fence, holding in her left hand a baton (but this is a kind of
>>> reserved normality).
>>>
>>> 5. Normality is also an adventure game, in which many fight: they fight
>>> against ordinary or usual aspects of life,  as would be expected.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erminia

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