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Subject:

Re: A pome ...

From:

Robin Hamilton <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:58:24 -0000

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Actually, Anny, nobody seems to do 68.

The line on Guy Debord was he topped himself, simple as that.

But it turns on what you have hard-wired into your skull from then.

For all of me, it was the moment they blew away Rudi D with a shotgun.

Worse things happened, but that was Exit The Lost Leader.

Robin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anny Ballardini" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: A pome ...


if that is the truth he deserves it,

what i meant in my previous message is that they killed him, don't ask me
who they are,

to this i added some remarks of my personal history with reference to a
wound i am not able to heal

that's about it, Robin, i am dealing with a concentrate of ammonia for the
very first balcony i've ever had in my life and the sun is shining, i can't
describe the sense of happiness this little outward protraction in the air
gives me in this moment, which i already "see" full of flowers, rosemary,
sage and all the best perfumed herbs,
"drawers (would say Dalì)" full of imagination on sale... nice sunday, anny

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>

I don't think the Conspiracy Theory runs that he was pushed, either
literally or metaphorically, Anny.

Mostly the blah floating around the Situationist lists is that it was a
joke, and he's sitting around somewhere in Provence drinking chardonnay and
giggling quietly to himself.

Robin.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anny Ballardini" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: A pome ...


I can't but trust my intuition and it says, No.
On the other side
I would also like to add that my friend, a doctor in medicine, who commited
suicide, did not do it willingly but was pushed to do it, again Antonin
Artaud was excellent in his book: "Van Gogh, a suicide of society", and can
explain much better than me what I mean.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: A pome ...


"La societé du spectacle" read in my twenties, there was this little
book-shop down town Florence that had it, very few knew and know of the
Situationists,
anny

Few enough even now.

But (no one seems to pick up on this) +did+ Guy Debord commit suicide?

Honest, I don't go a total bundle on conspiracy theory, but surely this was
just a little bit too manifestation pat?

Hm???

Robin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]>
...

... I thought at least when I ran detox, that I'd get out of the shadow of
The Ghost of Guy Debord. but what was the second thing that
Jim-the-Self-Mutilator said to me?  (after we'd finished trying to
reconstruct the beginning of "The Mask of Anarchy" from memory) -- _The
Society of the Spectacle_.

Gee uz a break, mate.

Robin

(Incidentally, what's the call on Guy just now -- did he commit suicide or
didn't he?)

"The Revolution will come when the last bourgeois is hung from the guts of
the last beaurocrat" -- and I didn't even know that was a Situationist
slogan when I was publishing in NiK (sic) in Glasgow in the sixties.

Makes you ponder, but ...

R2.

---- Original Message -----
From: "Árni Ibsen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: A pome ...


The principissa Di did occur to me, sorry, Robin, but then I whisked her
image away. Then I enjoyed it. A fine poem. 'Give us words' is the demand
made of writers today, and because of 'today' incapable of utterance.

Best

Árni

--
Árni Ibsen
Stekkjarkinn 19,
220 Hafnarfjördur,
Iceland

tel.: +354-555-3991
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
http://www.centrum.is/~aibsen/


on 11/28/02 1:32 PM, Robin Hamilton at [log in to unmask] wrote:

> LOOKING BACKWARDS:  30 YEARS
>
> (For Diana, who was 4)
>
> The workers demand their voice - give us
> Words, they exclaim - cry utter speak say.
>
> Instead we created a slogan - "You are not
> Living your lives, we are":  This is a Sit-
> uationist statement.  Please hand in your
>
> Party cards at the exits.  Door Zero: this is
> Ideology - the children play manifestation,
> Startle the gendarmes.  Broken heads and blood
> On the cobbles - epicentre of the phenomenon.
>
> The circles spread and spread and it was usually
> Posture.  Nothing much happened, after all -
> Cambridge was fun, but trivial.
>
> Then the wave crossed the Atlantic, and
> There were four dead children at Kent State U.
>
> Robin Hamilton   ......   9/9/98
>
>
> The date it was written has to be part of it.
>
> Robin

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