Candice,
I wasn't thinking of you in this matter. Sorry if replying to your last post
gave this impression. And I was glad to see your defence of Erminia's poem.
best
Randolph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Candice Ward" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Happy New Year/ Oz burns
> Yes, you're absolutely right, Randolph, and I apologize for
> participating--even Erminia-defensively--in such questioning, which must
be
> obnoxious to her from any quarter. I do recall Sonia as one of her alters,
> though, however mistakenly as it seems--and I really hate to see anyone's
> poem made a mockery of on a poetry list (hence my querying Dave's intent
> there). Anyway, I'll shut up now--sorry, Ermie and everyone else--Candice
>
>
>
> on 1/4/02 3:39 PM, Randolph Healy at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > Re the Sonia handle.
> > Listmembers may remember Erminia saying earlier that she would be off on
> > hols for a while. She is simply using someone else's e-mail while away.
> > I'm not at all happy at the way Erminia's presence on the list is
questioned
> > on a regular basis. It's not fair. Perhaps anyone with such concerns
should
> > seek clarification bc before making veiled accusations fc.
> >
> > Randolph
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Candice Ward" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: Happy New Year/ Oz burns
> >
> >
> >> As I still don't recall, in fact, since you quoted something else. But
> >> Alison can take up this exchange, which she started and has continued
up
> > to
> >> now, herself, if she likes, or not. I'm not going to discuss her with
you
> > as
> >> if she weren't even here.
> >>
> >> I think I see where your confusion arose between Erminia and one of her
> > old
> >> pseuds--maybe Sonia (and Suzanne, too) was before your time? I wish
they'd
> >> both stay buried in the archives myself, but the reappearance of one or
> > both
> >> doesn't seem grounds for sick Nazi jokes. Just my opinion as a fellow
> >> listee, Dave--pay me no mind if that doesn't matter to you--Candice
> >>
> >>
> >> on 1/4/02 1:56 PM, david.bircumshaw at [log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I'm sure Alison is capable of speaking for herself.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure she is, too, Candice. That's why I quoted her comment as you
> > seemed
> >>> to not recall her making it. Just trying to be helpful.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David Bircumshaw
> >>>
> >>> Leicester, England
> >>>
> >>> Home Page
> >>>
> >>> A Chide's Alphabet
> >>>
> >>> Painting Without Numbers
> >>>
> >>> www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm
> >>>
> >>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Candice Ward" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:42 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Happy New Year/ Oz burns
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> What fire?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure Alison is capable of speaking for herself.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's all, Dave, thanks--
> >>>>
> >>>> Candice
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> on 1/4/02 12:38 PM, david.bircumshaw at [log in to unmask]
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Candice, this fire's been burning too long.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You say to Alison:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't recall your complaining of "arson-terrorism" as
> >>> "inappropriate,"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Her first response to your introduction of the term
'arson-terrorism'
> >>>>> included:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Arson-terrorism" seems an inaccurate term to me; arson will do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Bircumshaw
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Leicester, England
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Home Page
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A Chide's Alphabet
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Painting Without Numbers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Candice Ward" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:34 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Happy New Year/ Oz burns
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> on 1/3/02 5:14 PM, Alison Croggon at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Extraordinary, Candice - this sort of fear-inflation by buzz
words,
> >>>>>>> and the consequent cripppling of thinking and critique, is just
what
> >>>>>>> I was objecting to when I complained that "arson-terrorism" was
> >>>>>>> inappropriate.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think you must have misunderstood Chris's post, Alison--surely he
> > was
> >>>>>> objecting to government-manipulated "fear-inflation by buzz words,
> > and
> >>> the
> >>>>>> consequent crippling of thinking and critique," by the media(?).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't recall your complaining of "arson-terrorism" as
> >>> "inappropriate,"
> >>>>>> although, going by Chris's report, you'd apparently be right to do
so
> >>>>> where
> >>>>>> these fires are concerned. What I heard you saying was that
> > "terrorism"
> >>> is
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> "non-word," which it most certainly is not, and I remain baffled by
> >>> your
> >>>>>> wish to deny its usage, even its existence perhaps, in the face of
> >>>>>> overwhelming evidence to the contrary. There is every reason to
> >>> advocate
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>> clearer definition of "terrorism," though, which classifying it by
> > type
> >>>>>> (arson-, say, or media-) might do, if not exclusively of course.
This
> >>> is
> >>>>>> just one possible means of clarification among others, the point
> > being
> >>> the
> >>>>>> need to define the term more specifically and thereby more
usefully.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Candice
>
>
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