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Re: Educating New Media Curators: Oct Theme of the Month

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Steve Symons <[log in to unmask]>

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Steve Symons <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:37:35 +0100

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Hi All

Firstly I wouldlike to clarify  that

'seem to be pockets of
Curating (certainly within UK), some with technology or design integrated,
but little dedicated.'

was refering to the teaching of Curating New Media at postgraduate level.  I am

sorry - I should have been more specific.

There is a great deal of dedicated New Media Curating worldwide....but where
did these professionals come from?

Zoe strikes several cords for me here - if an institution were to start a MA in

this field then they would not want to be seen as simply jumping on a band
wagon.  The support and agreement of current practioners is needed - especially

in a field that relies on interpersonal relationships.  Secondly the point
about knowledge of the wider curatorial practice is surely essential.

So why make a dedicated New Media Curating programme? Why is Technology
mediated work so special?  Beryl's original email raised the question of
technical knowledge.... is this active knowledge or knowledge of the "Grammar
of Technology"?

As a creator of artwork I apreciate greatly the critical discussion that the
curatorial community mediate .... does this highlight another issue vis the
relationshipbetween artist and curator.....( do you as curators feel valued? or

is this a moot question anyway?)

Steve

Zoe Li wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I don't the needs of the having a course of new media curating is
> questionable. It has been a subject that has to be further investigated and
> that's why there is so many discussion generated around it. The development
> of new media is changing everyday, think about:
>
> 'When the contemporary art scene in UK starts have this idea of curating
> emerging in presenting new media work?', or simply ask 'When we starts have
> this idea of new media as a subject in education system?
> As the subscriber of the list, I would like to hear some more positive
> discussion/suggestion with constructive critique rather than only criticism.
>
> I can understand that you will see the discussion 'seem to be pockets of
> Curating (certainly within UK), some with technology or design integrated,
> but little dedicated.' I had meet so many so called 'curator' who can only
> so good in 'intellectual tallk'.  But there is number of people who will
> actually carry out good practice.  To generalize the role of curator within
> the scene is unfair and negative, as matter of fact that curator act as the
> key player in the art scene and collaborate with artists, taking
> responsibilities of dealing with funding system, insinuations and audiences.
>
> For my understanding, the purpose of the list is to encourage a discussion
> which facilitate the development of the sector, and hopefully, certain
> discussions will be taken into action.
>
> Zoe Li
>
> p.s. let me introduce myself, graduate in MA in Curating at Goldsmiths
> College, collaborative graphic artist with Digital Cutup Lounge in Hong
> Kong, currently working as Diversity Program Co-ordinator in South West Arts
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Symons" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Educating New Media Curators: Oct Theme of the Month
>
> > Hi there
> >
> > As one of the invitees (thank you Beryl for initiating this discussion and
> > inviting me)...firstly let me introduce myself - I am a practicing artist
> > who specifically explores the use of and impact technological systems have
> > on my fine art practice.  As a programmer I have a particular perception
> of
> > how this can manifest, thus my work explores real-time systems that
> exploit
> > or simulate a process that I have observed elsewhere.  I also run the MA
> > Multimedia Arts Programme at Liverpool John Moores.
> >
> > I must admit to feeling a bit of an interloper on this list! However,
> there
> > are obviously a good number of people of see themselves as (or have an
> > interest in being) New Media Curators and this begs the question - "where
> > have you come from?".  This strikes me as an interesting starting point
> for
> > this discussion.  If New Media Curating as a field is healthy and
> > developing its own community, does it actually need a structured
> curriculum
> > that will in part define (and constrain?) it?
> >
> > To address some of Beryl's points below, generally there seem to be
> pockets
> > of Curating (certainly within UK), some with technology or design
> > integrated, but little dedicated.  Though I have recently heard about a
> > programme that claims to be the sole New Media Curating programme in
> Europe
> > (in Spain apparently - details anyone?).  Someone can probably expand upon
> > this more globally.
> >
> > I assume therfore that those Curators who have had postgraduate training
> > and specialise in New Media have probably subverted a wider curating
> > curriculum.  If this is true then we could go on to analyse what elements
> > were missing from the programme and that they had to seek out
> individually.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > Beryl Graham wrote:
> >
> > > Dear List, I'm glad to say that we're back on track with our Themes, and
> > > as promised, this Month's concerns formal education for new media
> > > curators:  As the start of term is always busy for educators, we may
> > > continue this theme into November if there is continuing
> > > interest. Educating New Media Curators: October Theme of the Month Last
> > > month a list member asked if there were any specialist new media
> > > curating postgraduate courses.  This raised the question: Should there
> > > be? Should curating courses be teaching about new media art?  Should new
> > > media art courses be teaching about curating (in the artist/curator
> > > model?)  What is formal education doing now, and what might the blue sky
> > > curriculum be for such a course?  How much technical knowledge to
> > > 'future curators' need?  Does the existing critical curating theory
> > > adequately include new media?  This Month's Invited Respondents: Norton
> > > Batkin (Bard), Caroline Koebel (Buffalo), Seth Cluett (Rensselaer),
> > > Saskia Bos (de Appel), Nuno Sacramento (Dundee), Anna Harding
> > > (Goldsmiths), Tim Brennan (Not the MA in Curating) and Steve Symons
> > > (Liverpool John Moores).

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