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There are 15 messages totalling 391 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Nineteenth century fantasy fiction
2. Nineteenth Century Fantasy Fiction
3. c.19 fantasy (2)
4. A new list
5. race and the aristocracy (3)
6. Unconsummated marriages in fiction (3)
7. Mrs. Henry Wood
8. The Pallisers
9. Year's Work in Swinburne query
10. TTHA Poem(s) of the Month for July
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:34:12 EDT
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Subject: Re: Nineteenth century fantasy fiction
Leopold's play The Bells has a whole act which is a dream sequence-Sue Doran
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:47:14 -0500
From: "Doris H. Meriwether" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Nineteenth Century Fantasy Fiction
Byron's poem "Darkness" is written from an altered state of
consciousness. The speaker describes a dream he'd had of the end of the
world, yet his experience is more than, or different from, a dream as is
implied in the first line: "I had a dream, which was not all a dream."
Perhaps a prophetic vision. Another of his poems written at the same
time (the summer of 1816) is titled "A Dream," while he, Shelley, Mary
Godwin, Claire Claremont, et al were in Switzerland, and Mary was
producing "Frankenstein," perhaps also bears looking at. You might find
Tennyson's "Palace of Art" and "The Lotos-Eaters" useful as well.
Doris Meriwether
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:04:26 +0100
From: Sarah A Brown <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: c.19 fantasy
Edward Bellamy's Looking Backwards is a kind of dream vision of the future.
Sarah
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:13:29 -0700
From: Lila Harper <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: c.19 fantasy
Edwin Abbott's _Flatland_(1884) has the two-dimensional A Square visit Lineland,
a one-dimensional world, in a dream.
Lila Harper
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:59:16 +0200
From: Cryssilda Collins <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A new list
Hello,
I have just created a new mailing list about the Victorian period for french
speakers.
Please, fell free to join:
http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/EpoqueVictorienneAnglaiseEnLisant/
Cryssilda
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:37:01 +0000
From: Carla Molloy <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: race and the aristocracy
Dear list members,
Does anybody know of any material, either primary or secondary, that deals
with Victorian ideas about race and the aristocracy? For example, I'm
interested in theories about the English aristocracy both as an exclusive
race and (especially) as a purer, superior version of the English race. I'm
aware of the literature on the gentleman but I'm more interested in ideas
about the aristocracy as an exclusive class. I also don't need any
information relating to the debunking of the idea that the aristocracy were
a special race.
In addition, can anybody point me to any texts dealing with popular ideas
about the supposed characteristics of the aristocracy? Again, I'm interested
in something a bit different from the gentlemanly character (although
obviously they can't be entirely separated). Aristocratic 'indolence' would
be an example of what I'm looking for.
Thank you for any help,
Carla
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:19:23 +0100
From: Judy Geater <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Unconsummated marriages in fiction
After this subject came up on another list, I'd like to ask if anybody has
come across examples of unconsummated marriages in Victorian fiction, or
maybe also in slightly later novels. One example I thought of was Antonia
White's autobiographical novel 'The Sugar House', but this was written at a
much later date in the early 1950s.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Judy Geater
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:41:54 +0100
From: Riley <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Mrs. Henry Wood
The recent Broadview edition of East Lynne edited by Andrew Maunder
includes a letter in the appendix from Ellen Wood to George Bentley dated
8th August 1861 as preparations were being made for publishing the first
edition of the novel. Wood writes "on the title page of the book I must
request you to put 'By Mrs Henry Wood, Author of Danesbury House.' Be
particular that the Christian name (Henry) is inserted".
Early reviews of East Lynne confirm that it did go out with Mrs Henry Wood
on the title page as did her other novels - in fact so did Danesbury House
which preceded it. My own theory is that Wood was being a stickler for
etiquette. Henry had an elder brother so his brother's wife, strictly
speaking, would have been Mrs Wood, while Ellen would have been Mrs Henry
Wood. Wood was always insistent on these kinds of rules being followed in
her novels. I agree with Sally Mitchell that Henry seems to have been
guilty of some kind of impropriety in France. Unfortunately no letters g
iving details appear to have survived.
Marie Riley
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:15:45 +0100
From: Judy Geater <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: The Pallisers
The Trollope-l mailing list is due to start a marathon group read of the
Palliser novels this weekend, beginning with 'Can You Forgive Her?' It will
take more than a year to read all six books.
Anybody interested is welcome to join in.
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:56:43 -0700
From: "Margot K. Louis" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Year's Work in Swinburne query
As usual, I would like to find out if I have missed any articles, book
chapters, or books on Swinburne which appeared in 2001 (or since). Besides
the works by Maxwell, Kuduk, Kjerdsen, and Cervo which I already discussed
in last year's review, I have (with the help of my research assistants)
found articles by Overholser (_Religion and the Arts_), Hardman (_Yearbook
of English Studies_), Edmond and Seagrott (both in _Victorian Literature
and Culture_), Strevens (_Critical Quarterly_), and Kitagawa (_Journal of
Pre-Raphaelite Studies_); also I've found an essay by Sawyer (in _Harold
Bloom's Shakespeare_) and significant discussion of Swinburne in Denisoff's
_Aestheticism and Sexual Parody_.
If anyone knows of other material on Swinburne which has appeared
last year or this, please contact me privately at [log in to unmask] many
thanks!
Margot K. Louis
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:20:26 -0700
From: Sheldon Goldfarb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: race and the aristocracy
The following passage in Chapter 5 of Thackeray's _Catherine_ may be of
interest. In it the narrator comments ironically on the fitness of the
lowborn Corporal Brock to be a gentleman:
"In truth, it is almost a pity that worthy Brock had not been a gentleman
born; in which case, doubtless, he would have lived and died as became
his station; for he spent his money like a gentleman, he loved women like a
gentleman, would fight like a gentleman, he gambled and got drunk like
a gentleman. What did he want else? Only a matter of six descents, a
little money, and an estate, to render him the equal of Saint John or
Harley."
Thackeray's writings in general can give an insight into the characteristics
of the aristocracy, at least as seen by a satirical semi-outsider. _Vanity
Fair_ would be the best known source, but other places to look include
_Barry Lyndon_ and "Cox's Diary."
In the latter, a lowly barber named Cox is transported into genteel society
by an unexpected inheritance. His first reaction is to change his name to
Coxe Coxe, for, as he says, "that's the way, double your name, and stick an
'e' to the end of it, and you are a gentleman at once." Cox goes on to
report that the upper classes eat a great deal, and go to the opera and the
ballet.
There's also the satirical account of the aristocracy as seen by one of
their servants which Thackeray presents in "The Yellowplush Papers." And it
might also be useful to look at his _Book of Snobs_.
For secondary material, there's Robin Gilmour's chapter on "The Novel and
the Aristocracy" in his 1986 book _The Novel in the Victorian Age_. There's
also Gilmour's 1981 book _The Idea of the Gentleman in the Victorian Novel_.
Sheldon Goldfarb
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:26:56 -0700
From: Sheldon Goldfarb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Unconsummated marriages in fiction
Did Casaubon consummate his marriage with Dorothea in _Middlemarch_?
Then there is the story of the Ruskins, but sadly it was no fiction.
Sheldon Goldfarb
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:10:04 -0500
From: Bill Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Unconsummated marriages in fiction
In *Jude the Obscure*, Sue and Phillotson's marriage is unconsummated until
quite late in the novel, when, in an act of something like self-rape, Sue
submits herself to him as a self-inflicted punishment for seeing Jude
alone. The novel suggests in various ways that even this act of sexual
consummation doesn't change the essentially sexless character of the union.
Bill Morgan
At 06:26 PM 7/01/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Did Casaubon consummate his marriage with Dorothea in _Middlemarch_?
>
>Then there is the story of the Ruskins, but sadly it was no fiction.
>
>Sheldon Goldfarb
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:45:39 -0500
From: Bill Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: TTHA Poem(s) of the Month for July
Earlier today, I posted Hardy's "Her Reproach" and "Her Confession"
as the TTHA Poem(s) of the Month for July 2002. This month's discussion
will be the fourth in a series dedicated to Hardy's sonnets. I invite your
contributions to a month-long on-line conversation about two of Hardy's
earliest works (the poems date from 1866-7) in the sonnet form.
You can find the TTHA Poem of the Month Discussion by following the
links from the main TTHA page at
http://www.yale.edu/hardysoc/Welcome/welcomet.htm
or by going directly to
http://webboard.ilstu.edu/~TTHA_POTM_DISCUSSIONS
Whichever route you take, when you arrive at the Poem of the Month site,
you will encounter a program called WebBoard, which will give you the
opportunity to read the poems as well as any comments they may have generated,
compose a response, preview your response, edit it further if you wish, and
then post it by using the button labeled Post the Message. If you are
composing an intricate or long response, you may want to prepare your
message in a word processing program, then copy it to your clipboard before
pasting it into the message area of WebBoard. And if you prefer, feel free
to send me your contribution as an e-mail, and I will post it for you:
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At the present time, this month's discussion and those for August
2001 ("The Last Signal"), September (Rome: At the Pyramid of Cestius" and
"Shelley's Skylark"), October ("At a House in Hampstead" and "At Lulworth
Cove a Century Back"), November ("To Shakespeare: After Three Hundred
Years"), December ("Lausanne: In Gibbon's Old Garden" and "George
Meredith"), January 2002 ("A New Year's Eve in War Time"), February ("The
Oxen"), March ("A Drizzling Easter Morning"), April ("Hap"), May ("At a
Lunar Eclipse"), and June ("She, to Him I-IV") are posted at the site and
open for contributions. I expect soon to have reconstructed the earlier
discussions of poems with female narrators ("The Dark-Eyed Gentleman," "She
At His Funeral," "Her Confession," "Tess's Lament," "The Pine-Planters,"
"The Pink Frock," "The Beauty," "I Rose and Went to Rou'tor Town," "An
Upbraiding," "The Chapel-Organist," "A Sunday-Morning Tragedy," and "A
Trampwoman's Tragedy") and when I have completed the work on them I will
post them as well. All of the older discussions will remain posted at the
site until such time as they are edited and published in either *The Hardy
Review* or in one of TTHA's Occasional Papers.
The discussions for February, 1998 through November 1999 have been
"closed" and their contents edited and published in *The Hardy Review* [I:1
(July 1998) and 2:1 (Summer 1999)]. Likewise, the conversations from 1999
about the "Emma" poems have been published as the second of the TTHA
Occasional Series. And those concerning "Channel Firing," "Satires of
Circumstance in 15 Glimpses," "After the Visit," "To Meet, or Otherwise,"
and "A Singer Asleep" have been published in *The Hardy Review*, III
(Summer 2000). The discussions of "Nature's Questioning," "The Mother
Mourns," "The Subalterns," "The Lacking Sense," "In a Wood," "To Outer
Nature," "June Leaves and Autumn," "Wagtail and Baby," "On a Midsummer
Eve," "Afterwards," "Shut Out That Moon," "The Last Chrysanthemum," "The
Year's Awakening," and "The Night of the Dance" have been edited and
published in *The Hardy Review*, IV (Summer 2001). All of these
publications are available free or at a discounted price to TTHA
members and may be ordered by others using an on-line form available at the
main TTHA page (see the URL above).
Welcome to the TTHA Poem of the Month Discussion for July 2002.
cheers,
Bill Morgan
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:55:57 -0700
From: Jack Kolb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: race and the aristocracy
>In addition, can anybody point me to any texts dealing with popular ideas
>about the supposed characteristics of the aristocracy? Again, I'm interested
>in something a bit different from the gentlemanly character (although
>obviously they can't be entirely separated). Aristocratic 'indolence' would
>be an example of what I'm looking for.
Carlyle's Past and Present includes chapters on working and unworking
aristocracies. And of course Tennyson's poetry contains a number of
reflections about a class that I think he both somewhat envied and despised
(at least before he became Baron Tennyson {grin}). See, for example, the
portrait of Maud's brother.
Jack Kolb
Dept. of English, UCLA
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