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Subject:

Re: THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN RISK AND COMPLEXITY

From:

Chris Burton <[log in to unmask]>

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Complexity and chaos theories applied to primary medical and social care <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:05:25 +0000

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>possible link between deterministic dynamics and stochastic
>mechanisms involve the use of an alpha-stable levy process which
>contains the  Gaussian and Ornstein-Uhlenbeck stochastic models as a
>special case.   Because alpha-stable levy processes generate fractal
>stochastic paths with  varying fractal dimensionality, the
>possibility of reconciling such stochastic  models with non-linear
>deterministic processes in the chaotic regime looks  promising" -

Ooooh, I just love it when you talk dirty!


Lighten up guys*,  this is part of a discourse from statistical physics, or whatever, and is manifestly not about practicalities. I could be just as dismissive about some of the management theory stuff which goes only marginally less far over my head than this.(six sigma? is this the prequel to Blake's Seven?)

And it's not as if there haven't been theoretical debates about what constitutes random (stochastic) / deterministic / emergence on this list.

And I fully agree with Frank (it had to happen one day!) that "meaning is created by the receiver"

Which is why I will ask Richard Heath, who is speaking at the research methods day, which will be rather numerical - for better or worse - to remember where his audience are coming from.

Love and peace
Chris

*( and gals for people who ARE NOT GUYS)

(BTW I _think_ he was exploring the territory around randomness and determinism and self-similarity, where analytical methods and models surely do have a place)
--
Chris Burton, [log in to unmask] on 17/12/2002


On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:29:45 -0000, St Thomas Medical Group Research Unit wrote:
>The answer to this debate has been starring us in  the face -
>Hmnnn.......
>
>This is from a book called "Non-linear dynamics -  techniques and
>applications in psychology" by Richard Heath.  I met up with  him
>for a session in a pub when I was last in London and managed to
>bluff my way  through the afternoon but his book is largely/totally
>impenetrable to  me.
>
>The point is that there are clever people out there  that know the
>answers to these sort of questions if you can understand what they
>are saying - Chris?
>
>David Kernick
>
>
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>Dr David Kernick St Thomas Health  Centre Cowick Street EXETER EX4
>1HJ Telephone: 01392 676679 Fax:  01392 676677 Email:
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