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Subject:

Re: Groups and the Digital Drop Box

From:

Paul Chin <[log in to unmask]>

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Paul Chin <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:57:03 -0000

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Kate,
this sounds useful but if I dare to be Devil's advocate here, aren't we just
making more work for ourselves? I am currently trying to make things easier
for staff and if we set this up we would then have to deal with an endless
list (well, a few at least!) of staff asking us to download their drop
boxes. The real solution is for Bb to sort this issue in their new, all
singing all dancing version 6? Am I being too optimistic.... :-)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: A list to promote discussion amongst MLE Blackboard/Courseinfo
users in UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Kate Boardman
Sent: 12 February 2002 15:17
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Groups and the Digital Drop Box


Ben,
yeessssss, um - how did I do it? Unfortunately its was me that did it, with
a couple of staff members who needed all the ddb taking off, so not really
accessible to staff on their own. Previously unnoticed changes in 5.5 reveal
better naming conventions in that last year when we tried it it was
impossible to find, where as now -on the staff members machine- I opened an
ftp (thereby keeping my package ID and password to the Bb server secure)
window and found remarkably quickly folders for the course (if I remember
rightly by its course ID rather than by the _1717_3 type reference you see
in the links which is what it used to be) and within that a folder called
uploads. then I just ported the lot to wherever the staff member requested
on their hard drive. Worked a dream, though clearly isn't preferable to a
useful ddb, but at least gets the stuff off for you. Again, naming
convention crucial. We had to print a copy of the ddb listing where
username/name of submitter is recorded. And obviously I could spend weeks
doing this at the end of a year if everyone wanted to download all docs
together, as noone else has that authority, but it was worth it for the
couple we've done - each had files in the hundreds in the ddb.

So in brief, no, you won't be able to put a link in a staff area to it, but
you may want to offer it as part of hte service you provide to staff. (but
at the expense of them doing other things themselves!). Copied to all group
as we may all have a need to use it at some point. I haven't tried, but if
the naming/filing of content is equally good for other content areas, then
it may also prove useful when wanting to export whole folders of stuff.

Kate

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kate Boardman
Learning Technologies Team
IT Service
University of Durham
South Road
Durham DH1 3LE

Tel.: 0191 374 1502
Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Web: http://www.dur.ac.uk/k.l.boardman


-----Original Message-----
From: ben hyde [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 12 February 2002 13:16 PM
To: Kate Boardman
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Groups and the Digital Drop Box


Kate

Can you then add a link (for example within a staff group space) to this -
for
the staff to use?
How are you authenticating the ftp access? And is it restricted to the
appropriate folder on the Bb machine?

cheers,
ben


Kate Boardman wrote:

> Sorry Sophie - folders (sub-divided / however you want to call it) isn't
> possible in the DDB - its something we've all wanted for a while. There is
> no easy way out - although if it helps I've worked out how to open an ftp
> client, go to find the course folder and the ddb within it, and then be
able
> to save out all the added documents at the same time rather than have to
> save each one individually.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Kate Boardman
> Learning Technologies Team
> IT Service
> University of Durham
> South Road
> Durham DH1 3LE
>
> Tel.: 0191 374 1502
> Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Web: http://www.dur.ac.uk/k.l.boardman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A list to promote discussion amongst MLE Blackboard/Courseinfo
> users in UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Sophie Brettell
> Sent: 12 February 2002 12:11 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Groups and the Digital Drop Box
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to create sub-divisions within the
> digital dropbox?  I've been asked to find a way to sort student
> submissions into three categories for a number of modules with large
> numbers of students and more than one marker so that each marker
> can
> download their workload only.  Each module has nine assignments
> associated with it, seven of which are being marked by a single
> member
> of staff and don't cause a problem, however, the marking for the other
> two assignments is being split between two staff.  My initial thought
> was to create two groups and ask each group to submit the latter
> assignments into a sub-divided dropbox, but I haven't been able to
> find
> a way of doing it.
>
> I'm not happy with the idea of using the file exchange facility within
> groups to do this as it would mean that students would be able to
> access
> each others' work before it had been assessed.
>
> I've been asked to come up with a solution to this problem by the end
> of
> the day - help!
>
> ------------------------------
> Sophie Brettell
> Blackboard Support Officer
> LTSU, University of Newcastle upon Tyne
>
> t: +44 (0) 191 222 5565
> f: +44 (0) 191 222 3406
> e: [log in to unmask]
> -----------------------------

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