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Subject:

Re: Meta-tags and search engines

From:

Henny Bekker <[log in to unmask]>

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Henny Bekker <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:27:16 +0200

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Hello all,

A lot of Search Engines can be taught about metadata records..  We use
the ALtaVista 'Out of the Box' software for our Search Engine that is
metadata aware and supports the Dublin Core metadata set.. (in the near
feature we will implement qualified Dublin Core)..
Currently we are migrating from AltaVSiata v2.3a to AltaVSiata v3.02.
Have a look at our experimental index (a bit slow on older hardware)
with 3,3 Million entries from our user community (all universities in
the Netherlands) at URL:
http://search2.surfnet.nl:1080/cgi-bin/query?mss=en/meta&pg=q&what=web

Cheers, Henny

At 08:46 21-9-2001 +0800, Gillian Westera wrote:
>Hello
>
>That's most interesting about Inktomi... I have been following what metadata
>search engines index and include this on my Comparison of Search Engine User
>Interface Capabilities at:
>
>http://lisweb.curtin.edu.au/staff/gwpersonal/compare.html
>
>Hotbot uses author, description and keyword (and even though it uses
>Inktomi's search, it doesn't state that it supports DC and actually provides
>a guide on how to input data using the metatag style listed below)
>AltaVista uses description and keyword
>Excite only supports description
>Northern Light indexes metadata but doesn't treat it any differently.
>
>They require the following syntax:
><META NAME="Description" CONTENT="...">
>etc.
>
>Because of this, work that is underway at my institution is including these
>extra tags along with DC.  You can check out our template (still in beta)
>at:
>
>http://metadata.curtin.edu.au/template.html
>
>Cheers
>Gill
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>Gillian Westera
>Acting Information & Education Services Librarian
>Curtin University Library & Information Service
>GPO Box U1987
>Perth, Western Australia 6845
>Ph. +61 8 9266 7249 Fax: +61 8 9266 3947
>http://lisweb.curtin.edu.au/staff/gwestera.html
>__________________________________________________
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eileen Quam [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 0:52
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Meta-tags and search engines
>
>
>Inktomi Search Solution (formerly Ultraseek search engine) offers tuning for
>Dublin Core tags to increase their relevance ranking. In addition, it can
>use DC.subject for its rule-based Content Classification Engine
>(hierarchical topic categories). You can set up advanced search queries to
>work with DC tags. Check out our Bridges site for more information and
>studies on this (http://bridges.state.mn.us) and the State of Minnesota's
>search site for an implementation of the Content Classification Engine
>(http://search.state.mn.us). I would be happy to correspond privately about
>your other questions.
>Eileen
>
>Eileen Quam
>Information Architect
>Minnesota Dept. of Natural Resources
>[log in to unmask]
>651.297.2341
>651.297.4946 FAX
>
> >>> David Davies <[log in to unmask]> 09/20/01 11:36AM >>>
>Dear all
>
>I've only recently joined this list and I still have a lot to learn about
>metadata in general and Dublin Core specifically but I'd like to ask an
>early question if I may.
>
>The content management system we use to store our curriculum web pages
>creates DC tags in the HTML page header thus
>
><meta name="DC.Contributor" content="David Davies">
><meta name="DC.Format" content="text/html">
><meta name="DC.Language" content="en">
>
>etc
>
>Do internet search engines such a Google use these tags in a meaningful way
>or is the text contained in the content attribute just lumped in with the
>text of the page itself to improve the chance of a 'hit' when a user submits
>a search?
>
>More specifically, I would like to know if anyone knows of a search engine
>that can explicitly make use of these tags by allowing a complex search
>query? Say I have a multilingual site and I want to pull out pages where
>DC.Language" = "en". I'd need to be able to construct a search query that
>allowed input of one or more DC meta tags as qualifiers. Anyone any ideas if
>there's a search engine that does this?
>
>Our content management system allows the user to search based upon the
>values of DC meta tags as well as free text in the body of the page but I
>would like to use a search engine that indexes a number of sites yet still
>retains this functionality. And by number of site I mean hundreds or
>thousands, the kind of order of magnitude that makes Google an useful
>engine.
>
>Is this a case of off the shelf or do it yourself?
>
>Cheers,
>
>David.
>
>--
>
>Dr David A. Davies
>Senior Lecturer
>Medical Education Unit
>School of Medicine
>The University of Birmingham
>B15 2TT. UK.
>Tel: 44 (0) 121 414 3255
>Fax: 44 (0) 121 414 6919

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