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Re: "Dublin Core" vs "DCMI"

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Dan Brickley <[log in to unmask]>

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This list, which supersedes dc-datamodel, dc-schema, and dc-implementors, i" <[log in to unmask]>

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+cc: stu

I'd love an answer to this question. However, rather than discuss it
here, I suggest we simply ask Stu Weibel to supply us with an
answer. Discussion and debate can be useful, but I don't believe the
particular expertise concentrated on dc-architecture is best suited to
answering this question. Stu: does this seem reasonable? Could you
give an answer for this FAQ, to feed into the dc-arch docs?

What I would like to see on this list are some implementors claiming
victory w.r.t. the current proposed RDF/DCQ spec! Are we done yet? Hands
up anybody who feels they've got it implemented (in whole or part...).

Dan (still in catch-up mode...)



On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Thomas Baker wrote:

> On further reflection: my opposition to stamping "Dublin Core" on lots
> of things besides the original Element Set dates back to a time when
> there was talk about branching out into different types of metadata
> besides simple resource discovery.  This hasn't happened, so perhaps we
> _should_ use "Dublin Core" more generally than for "the Dublin Core"
> per se -- ie, for a small vocabulary for cross-domain resource
> discovery following particular principles.
>
> I hate to keep posting on this old issue, but we should at least have
> an answer to "What is the Dublin Core?"
>
> What do others think?
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Thomas Baker wrote:
> > There have been noisy discussions about this in the past.  "Dublin
> > Core" is problematic as a name, but we're stuck with it.
> >
> > The issue is whether "the Dublin Core" is a well-known set of fifteen
> > "core" elements printed on tee-shirts, or whether "Dublin Core" has in
> > fact turned into a generic brand name that can and should be stamped
> > onto other products of this process, such as technical specs,
> > qualifiers, controlled vocabularies, and various other "non-core"
> > elements.
> >
> > I have always come down very strongly on the side of seeing "the Dublin
> > Core" as that small set of "core" elements, even if that set may evolve
> > a bit over time.  Using the string "DCMI" has the advantage of not
> > implying "coreness" or muddying the identity of "the Dublin Core".  For
> > the past year, at any rate, DCMI has been using "DCMI" pretty
> > consistently in the names of working groups, in press releases, and on
> > the Web site.  I take your point about future organizations controlling
> > the namespace but do not see this as a major problem.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Aaron Swartz wrote:
> > > Thomas Baker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2) http://purl.org/dc/terms/        - "Dublin Core terms" (no!)
> > >
> > > I understand that there is a lot of confusion over DC vs. DCMI, etc.
> > > However, I personally feel that keeping the purl.org/dc/ is important for
> > > consistency and understandability. As others have said, Dublin Core has
> > > become a "brand name" -- DCMI has not. People understand what DC and Dublin
> > > Core are -- in fact, the DCMI website is at dublincore.org.
> > >
> > > In addition to that, there is another distinction I see. Dublin Core is a
> > > concept -- an idea. DCMI is an organization. The Dublin Core terms will live
> > > on long after the DCMI is gone. In fact, it is possible that in the future a
> > > new organization will take control of the creation of Dublin Core terms, in
> > > which case they should have an appropriate namespace.
> > >
> > > Please, let's just leave it at DC.
> > >
> > > --
> > > [ Aaron Swartz | [log in to unmask] | http://www.aaronsw.com ]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________________
> > Dr. Thomas Baker                                            [log in to unmask]
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> >
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> Dr. Thomas Baker                                            [log in to unmask]
> GMD Library
> Schloss Birlinghoven                                           +49-2241-14-2352
> 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany                              fax +49-2241-14-2619
>
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