JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for LIS-E-RESOURCES Archives


LIS-E-RESOURCES Archives

LIS-E-RESOURCES Archives


LIS-E-RESOURCES@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

LIS-E-RESOURCES Home

LIS-E-RESOURCES Home

LIS-E-RESOURCES  2001

LIS-E-RESOURCES 2001

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: ingenta EasyLink and Other Issues on the New ingenta site

From:

Lesley Crawshaw <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

An informal open list, set up under the auspices of the United Kingdom Seri" <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:47:08 +0100

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (98 lines)

Hi,

I must admit when ingenta updated its site and there were loads of teething
problems I thought I would bury my head in the sand for a few weeks and then
come up for air and hope everything was hunky dory. Fat chance!!

First of all I share all the concerns that have already been raised by list
members.

My email concerns the easylink feature or the not so easylink feature, as I
am about to rename it!! and the question of authentication for on campus
users.

I was slightly when I read Ian's message as I've been using the BIDS format
for all our ingenta journals. However, I've just been informed by the BIDs
helpdesk that the old BIDs format easylink will not work for any new titles
uploaded. They will continue to work for existing titles. I've just had an
example where that was the case for a Blackwell Publishers title, Milton
Quarterly, which has only just gone online where only the www.ingenta.com/
easylink format works.

Apparently that has been the position for the last few years, although I
used the BIDs format easylink for the recent Sage journals which were only
uploaded this year!!! So who is telling the truth??

I guess that means that those of us who use the BIDS easylink format should
change all our URLs to point to ingenta. However, this is not without it's
difficulties as it appears that we have to authenticate our access using the
ATHENS username and password even from on campus. The box for this
information hardly dominates the screen, whereas the form to fill in for
document delivery via payment does!!! I thought the purpose of easylink was
make it easier for our users to get straight to the full text without the
need for a username and password via IP authentication. The system is
recognising my institution, so why can't I access my subscriptions without
the need for ATHENS authentication.

My experience today runs contrary to Kirsty's email (08/06/01) which said
"Users within IP registered institutions following an EasyLink will
now have direct access to their subscriptions and will not be challenged".
Well I was challenged today on accessing the full text of some of our
subscriptions using the www.ingenta.com version of easylink. Again Kirsty's
email (08/06/01) said "The Express Registration form was appearing to users
when they should have had free access via their institution's subscriptions.
This has now been fixed, and users will only be presented with this form
when there is a genuine pay-per-view situation".  Again I can only say that
again this was not my experience when I tried to access one of our
subscribed titles via a www.ingenta.com easylink.

It's a pity that ingenta has forgotten the UK higher education sector who
were its bread and butter for so many years.

Cheers
Lesley

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lesley Crawshaw, Faculty Information Consultant, LIS,
University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, AL10 9AB UK
                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
phone:  01707 284662      fax: 01707 284666
web: http://www.herts.ac.uk/lis/subjects/natsci/ejournal/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list, set up under the auspices of the United
Kingdom Seri [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ian
Winship
Sent: 11 June 2001 11:40
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: ingenta EasyLink


Like others we are a little confused about the future of EasyLinks.

A query using the Contact form on the ingenta site produced a reply from the
ingenta Helpdesk in the US that the BIDS format
http://www.bids.ac.uk/journals/browse/bpl/acfi?mode=direct
will not be maintained and the ingenta format is needed.

Is this correct - or does the US part of the company not understand BIDS? If
it is correct then what is the timescale?
We would prefer not to have to change the URLs for 2000 titles on our Web
database and the library catalogue.

Kirsty wrote that "We intend to migrate BIDS users to the new service in the
next few months" What does this mean?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ian Winship
Learning Resources, University of Northumbria at Newcastle
City Campus Library, Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 8ST, UK
                  ----------------
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
phone:  0191 227 4150      fax: 0191 227 4563
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager