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Subject:

FW: Batch enrolling users

From:

Neil Ringan <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Neil Ringan <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:19:12 +0100

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Some dialogue between Paul at Bristol and myself re differences in batch
enrolling between Bb 5.5 and previous versions which may be of interest /
benefit to other members of the group - especially those who have migrated
from 4 to 5.0 to 5.5 (or 2->3->4->5->5.5 in our case !)

Bottom line is you can't do in 5.5 what you used to be able to in 4

Neil

Dr Neil Ringan
Director, Learning Innovation Centre
University of Huddersfield
Queensgate, Huddersfield, HD1 3DH
P +44 (0)1484 47 31 46
F +44 (0)1484 47 21 46
E [log in to unmask]

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bailey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 16 October 2001 15:32
To: Neil Ringan
Subject: Re: Batch enrolling users


Neil

Please publish the discussion below if it is useful

btw I have noticed a few things in Bb 5.5 which seem steps backwards in
terms of functionality, eg launching a document in an external window.
Bye
Paul

Neil Ringan wrote:

> Ah, that explains how you're doing it - yes you're right - but in Bb 5.0
and
> 4 you used to be able to enrol at a COURSE level, not at the system level
> (where you enrol users into the system and then have to attach them to a
> course as a separate process).  What Paul was asking about in his earlier
> email was being able to enrol student directly in at the course level
which
> created the user if they didn't exist already AND attached them t the
course
> (or if they did exist simply attached them to that course).
>
> As I said in my email to the group - you used to be able to do this in
> previous version even if instructors weren't allowed to do it.  I've
picked
> up on a few things which aren't in 5.5 which used to be in 4 or 5 so those
> of us who have experienced (suffered ?) the various updates have to keep
> reinventing how we do things !
>
> Do you have any objection if I copy this message (and the trail
underneath)
> to the group for info ?
>
> N
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Bailey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 16 October 2001 12:50
> To: Neil Ringan
> Subject: Re: Batch enrolling users
>
>
> Neil
>
> Confusing - there is no optionto batch enrol form a course.  You need to
>   go into the System Admin tab, under User Management, User Utilities,
> Batch enrol users.  That is the only place I know it exists.
> We are using Level 2 - if that explains anything.
> Bye
> Paul
>
> Neil Ringan wrote:
>
>
>>Paul
>>
>>Not sure if I am missing something or not - when I try and go into a
>>
> course
>
>>with system admin rights, the only option I get is "Enroll Existing User"
>>
> -
>
>>the only way I can get "Batch Add Users" to appear is by allowing this
>>option to all instructors at a system level....
>>
>>And you're right - there is no way of batch attaching rather than creating
>>
> -
>
>>at least there wasn't in 4 or 5.0 and when we have had the enrol option
>>switched on system-wide in 5.5 it is just the same as the old verisons
>>
> were.
>
>>Neil
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Paul Bailey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: 16 October 2001 11:42
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Batch enrolling users
>>
>>
>>We are using 5.5, and yes you can batch enrol with an admin role such as
>>  system support or account administrator.
>>However, one of us is confused here.  There is an option to "Batch Add
>>User" which allows an instructor to batch "create" users, however there
>>is no option I have found to allow instructors to batch enrol users to a
>>course in 5.5.  If someone can tell me there is one - I'll be very
>>
> pleased!
>
>>Bye
>>Paul
>>
>>Neil Ringan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I think this is a 'new feature' in 5.5. It used to be the case that if
you
>>>had sysadmin rights you could enrol users to a course even if the option
>>>
>>>
>>was
>>
>>
>>>switched off for mere mortals - we used to be able to do it in CI4 and,
>>>
>>>
>>I'm
>>
>>
>>>fairly sure, in 5.0  We haven't found a way round it other than batch
>>>creating the students then enrolling them - as you say this takes 2 files
>>>and more effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Paul Chin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>Sent: 16 October 2001 10:39
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Batch enrolling users
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I've just come across my latest niggle and wonder if there is a way
around
>>>it. I'd previously turned 'batch enroll users' off so that staff didn't
go
>>>creating whole lists of bogus or incorrectly registered students on their
>>>own. However, if I want to batch add a new list of students from a course
>>>
>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>can't do this because the option is turned off. The problem is that I
>>>
>>>
>>can't
>>
>>
>>>do this from the admin control panel either. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>I can register students and then enroll them but this is a two step
>>>
>>>
>>process
>>
>>
>>>and I have to create or twiddle with two separate files for enrolment -
>>>
>>>
>>not
>>
>>
>>>as efficient as doing it from a specific course.
>>>
>>>regards
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Paul Chin
>>>eLearning Adviser
>>>Centre for Learning Development
>>>Brynmor Jones Library
>>>University of Hull,Hull HU6 7RX
>>>email: [log in to unmask]
>>>tel: +44 (0)1482 465941 (direct line)
>>>tel: +44 (0)1482 466186 (dept. office)
>>>Fax: +44 (0)1482 341334
>>>____________________________________________

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